I don’t think he has any beef with firemen, but if your job is to deliberately expose yourself to an incredibly dangerous situation on the regular, death is kind of an expected outcome.
I agree, as far as that goes, but I still feel sorry for them.
Being a police officer, certainly in most countries, is not intended to involve “exposing yourself to an incredibly dangerous situation on the regular.”.
Here in Australia the majority of cops, on the majority of days or weeks, will not encounter any kind of weapon or even need to restrain anyone. It’s getting details from people, taking notes, attending call outs for welfare checks, domestic disturbances, documenting non-violent crimes, et cetera.
It’s really, really naive to say “oh well being police is dangerous so of course they’re going to die”. No one would take a job expecting to die for it.
It is more nuanced than that. Did the agency hire qualified fire fighters? Was the department well funded? What role did the deceased have in the circumstances, were they sent on poor orders or bad information?
A lot of dangerous professions can be survived with strict adherence to safety and maintainance. Death on the job should be a consideration but not necessarily an acceptance in dangerous professions.
For an extreme example there is a massive difference in diving with professional gear compared to whatever those illegal mining boats do with impoverished locals and home made equipment.
Doesn’t mean it’s fine.
Based on current events, for police it will heavily depend on circumstances.
But what’s the beef with firemen?
I don’t think he has any beef with firemen, but if your job is to deliberately expose yourself to an incredibly dangerous situation on the regular, death is kind of an expected outcome.
I agree, as far as that goes, but I still feel sorry for them.
Being a police officer, certainly in most countries, is not intended to involve “exposing yourself to an incredibly dangerous situation on the regular.”.
Here in Australia the majority of cops, on the majority of days or weeks, will not encounter any kind of weapon or even need to restrain anyone. It’s getting details from people, taking notes, attending call outs for welfare checks, domestic disturbances, documenting non-violent crimes, et cetera.
It’s really, really naive to say “oh well being police is dangerous so of course they’re going to die”. No one would take a job expecting to die for it.
It’s more dangerous to deliver pizza than to be a cop.
It is more nuanced than that. Did the agency hire qualified fire fighters? Was the department well funded? What role did the deceased have in the circumstances, were they sent on poor orders or bad information?
A lot of dangerous professions can be survived with strict adherence to safety and maintainance. Death on the job should be a consideration but not necessarily an acceptance in dangerous professions.
For an extreme example there is a massive difference in diving with professional gear compared to whatever those illegal mining boats do with impoverished locals and home made equipment.
I agree with you, but no matter has good your training and equipment, you’re taking the chance every time.
As someone pointed out elsewhere in this thread, the same is true of driving to work, which makes OP’s position rather questionable.
I think they are saying that fireman don’t get enough recognition but LEOs get over recognition.