…What did we go in to accomplish, for that matter?
I’m not talking about distractions, that’s fine to discuss, but as far as I’m aware, I’ve not heard any justification for why we went in and that we’ve reached any objectives.
The new guy elected is somehow even more of a hardliner and I’ve read he definitely wants nukes. So we got iran to commit to nukes probably. Plus, we saw how well America has adapted to drone warfare. So, yay? What’s a couple dozen billion dollars to military industry friends, some combat experience, some dead americans, and destabilizing the world economy?
There is zero economic rationale for nukes, especially when you have sunny place and China as a friend. An easy offramp is to sell any nuclear material to highest bidder, with US invited to bid. Only justification of nuclear energy is scientist control and military purposes. True even in China with reasonable power prices.
The hard line reputation is more about Iran sovereignty absolutism. His father made a mistake to hope for US/Europe reasonableness/raprochement. IRGC resisted Chinese support, for more control over people. New leader doesn’t mean any predictable outcome, but may be open to understanding previous mistakes.
My point was that nuclear energy is not economic from selling energy perspective. I agree that it was idiotic mistake for Iran to pretend to pursue economic/peaceful nuclear energy. Still, if it can sell enriched uranium at high profit, that is easy path to peace.
A really salient point. What is the purported reason for this war?
As a not-american im really, really sick of this shit. Im on the other side of the world, we have a stable democracy and elected a centre left government.
Yet, fuel prices have jumped, inflation to follow, and yesterday I learned that fuel shortages are a very real possibility.
Additionally theyre talking about deploying our troops to the region, which will probably include my nephew.
While i understand that not all americans are at fault, and some of you have even been doing your best, as a nation I… dislike you immensely.
Well that’s pretty fucken reasonable since the US is almost by definition not a nation. It’s a civic empire containing a multitude of nations, not too dissimilar to the Roman Empire.
So what did we accomplish?
…What did we go in to accomplish, for that matter?
I’m not talking about distractions, that’s fine to discuss, but as far as I’m aware, I’ve not heard any justification for why we went in and that we’ve reached any objectives.
The new guy elected is somehow even more of a hardliner and I’ve read he definitely wants nukes. So we got iran to commit to nukes probably. Plus, we saw how well America has adapted to drone warfare. So, yay? What’s a couple dozen billion dollars to military industry friends, some combat experience, some dead americans, and destabilizing the world economy?
There is zero economic rationale for nukes, especially when you have sunny place and China as a friend. An easy offramp is to sell any nuclear material to highest bidder, with US invited to bid. Only justification of nuclear energy is scientist control and military purposes. True even in China with reasonable power prices.
The hard line reputation is more about Iran sovereignty absolutism. His father made a mistake to hope for US/Europe reasonableness/raprochement. IRGC resisted Chinese support, for more control over people. New leader doesn’t mean any predictable outcome, but may be open to understanding previous mistakes.
Economic, no, but you’d have to be out of your mind to not see the security rationale for obtaining nuclear weapons if you were Iran.
My point was that nuclear energy is not economic from selling energy perspective. I agree that it was idiotic mistake for Iran to pretend to pursue economic/peaceful nuclear energy. Still, if it can sell enriched uranium at high profit, that is easy path to peace.
A really salient point. What is the purported reason for this war?
As a not-american im really, really sick of this shit. Im on the other side of the world, we have a stable democracy and elected a centre left government.
Yet, fuel prices have jumped, inflation to follow, and yesterday I learned that fuel shortages are a very real possibility.
Additionally theyre talking about deploying our troops to the region, which will probably include my nephew.
While i understand that not all americans are at fault, and some of you have even been doing your best, as a nation I… dislike you immensely.
Ditto from Canada
As a nation, I dislike us immensely as well. :|
Well that’s pretty fucken reasonable since the US is almost by definition not a nation. It’s a civic empire containing a multitude of nations, not too dissimilar to the Roman Empire.
Why, Iran was mere seconds away from having a nuclear bomb!