I would love to see some hybrid cars that run gas get converted to propane (like the rental trucks at Lowe’s) so you’re now even cleaner and less dependent on fossil fuels (though still reliant on natural gas).
I would imagine running a Chevy Volt-like vehicle where the gas engine functioned more like a generator, running propane, would get pretty far on a small LPG cylinder!
Even if that is the case, I would argue the grid could sustain people charging EVs at various times during the day or setting up off-peak charging schedule than it can sustain all the AI slop being generated 24-7.
Yet the people I hear complaining about the theoretical load EVs could technically put onto the grid have nothing to say about the AI data centers that are actively raising energy costs and demanding more power than the local infrastructure can actually provide.
Data centers are absolutely consuming a bunch of power and we’re paying for it, I agree!! California suffered brown outs from everyone charging during there day at work or at night. Idk of that’s been corrected, but that’s also why Trump relaxed coal and oil regulations so we could get enough power-though I hear some data centers are using jet engine turbines to supplement them smh.
So while batteries can be affordable, lithium is too dangerous, and the technology hasn’t quite got to the point for widespread adoption, my opinion. Solid state and sodium ion are better technologies just around the corner that offer loner range, faster charging, and safer in accidents.
Solid state and sodium ion are better technologies just around the corner
They’ve been “around the corner” for nearly a decade. While the tech is promising, it has yet to really be scaled up for mass market. Also, while I agree lithium has it’s risks, but so do ICE cars and a lot of things we deal with on a day to day. Think of how many lithium batteries exist in the world and how few catastrophic failures there are.
You hear about EVs batteries catching fire because it’s a new technology and corporate media is in the pocket of the fossil fuel industry. ICE cars catch fire all the time, so much so that it’s rarely if ever reported on, and only local news if that. Meanwhile every EV fire is a national story because it’s novel and they want to spread misinformation about the tech.
I hear some data centers are using jet engine turbines
Specifically, Twitter AI/Grok is poisoning Memphis, TN because the local infrastructure cannot supply all the power the data center there “needs” (read: wants). They are illegally running diesel generators that are only meant to be used in emergencies because they are so bad with their emissions.
The local neighborhoods have had countless health issues and people have literally died from them. Musk is killing people so his slop machine can generate child abuse material. Also, the neighborhoods in question are prominently black, which adds a whole extra dimension of racism on top of the “fuck the poor” mentality he has.
why Trump relaxed coal and oil regulations
That’s not why he did that. He did that because he is bought by the same fossil fuel executives. He’s done more damage to our energy infrastructure because he’s killed a ton of projects to get renewables deployed.
He also has a personal grievance against wind power, or as he likes to call them “windmills”, because he didn’t like the few off shore ones that he could see from his golf course somewhere in the UK.
The US was poised to be the leader in renewable energy and instead the corrupt politicians, on both “sides” mind you, decided to stifle the innovation on both renewables and EVs, letting China become the current leader.
He and the rest of the fascist have hindered renewable adoption in the US because of their corruption. Rather than be energy independent we are forced to rely on fossil fuels and on top of that we actually export most of the oil we produce because “free market”, as companies get more money selling it abroad than domestically.
So we import oil they make more expensive by tariffs and illegal wars while they prevent us from reducing our reliance on said oil and allow private companies to profit off of oil we produce by exporting it, so we can’t even be energy independent with our own oil.
Also, they fearmonger about China “beating us in AI”, when outside of Deepseek there hasn’t been any big revelations from China and Deepseek was only a big thing because US companies were not innovating but brute forcing the tech. I’m sure China is still doing research on the tech, but they likely understand the limitations of it and don’t have the private investors inflating a bubble hoping/wishing it can replace workers.
So to recap, we are wasting tons of resources on “AI” because companies want to try and replace workers and they use fearmongering about China to excuse the waste while they ignore the fact that China is kicking our ass when it comes to EVs and renewable energy.
Lithium hadn’t really had catastrophic failures itself, I’m speaking more fake from car accidents. Tesla’s awfully inaccurate autopilot or self driving or whatever, and when those cells are damaged, they’re dangerous.
Ice engines are mostly explosive in movies lol. I think Mythbusters or some from the show shot at gas tanks that were full and partially filled hoping to ignite.
I agree on all the energy stuff, were stuck with corporate interests ruining the environment so they can have even more profit!
Tesla is one company run by a fascist idiot. He decided to market regular driver assistance features as “auto pilot” and idiots think they can sleep in the car while it drives them off a cliff.
Most modern cars have some form of adaptive cruse and lane assist. My car has lane centering where it will follow the lines on the road along with adaptive cruse and makes highway driving way less stressful, but you still have to keep hold of the steering wheel and be ready to take over as it’s far from perfect.
It will sometimes follow off ramps and when lanes split or merge with odd lines it will lose tracking, but as long as you pay attention I’ve not had any issues like some describe with the wheel “jerking hard” to randomly turn. I literally just tighten my grip when I feel it wanting to drift toward a different lane or off ramp and it will keep going straight.
The tech isn’t inherently dangerous if people use it correctly.
As for ICE cars catching fire, they literally do. Not like the movies but an accident that is bad enough and there is a fuel leak that has a high chance to catch fire. Fuel lines can also dry rot or the 12V system can fry itself if there is a fault in a place that won’t hit a fuse.
Gasoline and diesel cars experience 1,530 fires per 100,000 vehicles, compared to just 25 fires for EVs.
That’s from over a year ago, but again goes to show that gas cars catch fire orders of magnitude more often per capita. Oddly enough, hybrid shows over twice the rate of non-hybrid ICE apparently due to them being more complex than traditional ICE or full EVs.
The grid… Cannot sustain in the US.
Pulling oil from the ground is so much less sustainable, and it will only get more expensive
I would love to see some hybrid cars that run gas get converted to propane (like the rental trucks at Lowe’s) so you’re now even cleaner and less dependent on fossil fuels (though still reliant on natural gas).
I would imagine running a Chevy Volt-like vehicle where the gas engine functioned more like a generator, running propane, would get pretty far on a small LPG cylinder!
Even if that is the case, I would argue the grid could sustain people charging EVs at various times during the day or setting up off-peak charging schedule than it can sustain all the AI slop being generated 24-7.
Yet the people I hear complaining about the theoretical load EVs could technically put onto the grid have nothing to say about the AI data centers that are actively raising energy costs and demanding more power than the local infrastructure can actually provide.
Data centers are absolutely consuming a bunch of power and we’re paying for it, I agree!! California suffered brown outs from everyone charging during there day at work or at night. Idk of that’s been corrected, but that’s also why Trump relaxed coal and oil regulations so we could get enough power-though I hear some data centers are using jet engine turbines to supplement them smh.
So while batteries can be affordable, lithium is too dangerous, and the technology hasn’t quite got to the point for widespread adoption, my opinion. Solid state and sodium ion are better technologies just around the corner that offer loner range, faster charging, and safer in accidents.
They’ve been “around the corner” for nearly a decade. While the tech is promising, it has yet to really be scaled up for mass market. Also, while I agree lithium has it’s risks, but so do ICE cars and a lot of things we deal with on a day to day. Think of how many lithium batteries exist in the world and how few catastrophic failures there are.
You hear about EVs batteries catching fire because it’s a new technology and corporate media is in the pocket of the fossil fuel industry. ICE cars catch fire all the time, so much so that it’s rarely if ever reported on, and only local news if that. Meanwhile every EV fire is a national story because it’s novel and they want to spread misinformation about the tech.
Specifically, Twitter AI/Grok is poisoning Memphis, TN because the local infrastructure cannot supply all the power the data center there “needs” (read: wants). They are illegally running diesel generators that are only meant to be used in emergencies because they are so bad with their emissions.
The local neighborhoods have had countless health issues and people have literally died from them. Musk is killing people so his slop machine can generate child abuse material. Also, the neighborhoods in question are prominently black, which adds a whole extra dimension of racism on top of the “fuck the poor” mentality he has.
That’s not why he did that. He did that because he is bought by the same fossil fuel executives. He’s done more damage to our energy infrastructure because he’s killed a ton of projects to get renewables deployed.
He also has a personal grievance against wind power, or as he likes to call them “windmills”, because he didn’t like the few off shore ones that he could see from his golf course somewhere in the UK.
The US was poised to be the leader in renewable energy and instead the corrupt politicians, on both “sides” mind you, decided to stifle the innovation on both renewables and EVs, letting China become the current leader.
He and the rest of the fascist have hindered renewable adoption in the US because of their corruption. Rather than be energy independent we are forced to rely on fossil fuels and on top of that we actually export most of the oil we produce because “free market”, as companies get more money selling it abroad than domestically.
So we import oil they make more expensive by tariffs and illegal wars while they prevent us from reducing our reliance on said oil and allow private companies to profit off of oil we produce by exporting it, so we can’t even be energy independent with our own oil.
Also, they fearmonger about China “beating us in AI”, when outside of Deepseek there hasn’t been any big revelations from China and Deepseek was only a big thing because US companies were not innovating but brute forcing the tech. I’m sure China is still doing research on the tech, but they likely understand the limitations of it and don’t have the private investors inflating a bubble hoping/wishing it can replace workers.
So to recap, we are wasting tons of resources on “AI” because companies want to try and replace workers and they use fearmongering about China to excuse the waste while they ignore the fact that China is kicking our ass when it comes to EVs and renewable energy.
Lithium hadn’t really had catastrophic failures itself, I’m speaking more fake from car accidents. Tesla’s awfully inaccurate autopilot or self driving or whatever, and when those cells are damaged, they’re dangerous.
Ice engines are mostly explosive in movies lol. I think Mythbusters or some from the show shot at gas tanks that were full and partially filled hoping to ignite.
I agree on all the energy stuff, were stuck with corporate interests ruining the environment so they can have even more profit!
Tesla is one company run by a fascist idiot. He decided to market regular driver assistance features as “auto pilot” and idiots think they can sleep in the car while it drives them off a cliff.
Most modern cars have some form of adaptive cruse and lane assist. My car has lane centering where it will follow the lines on the road along with adaptive cruse and makes highway driving way less stressful, but you still have to keep hold of the steering wheel and be ready to take over as it’s far from perfect.
It will sometimes follow off ramps and when lanes split or merge with odd lines it will lose tracking, but as long as you pay attention I’ve not had any issues like some describe with the wheel “jerking hard” to randomly turn. I literally just tighten my grip when I feel it wanting to drift toward a different lane or off ramp and it will keep going straight.
The tech isn’t inherently dangerous if people use it correctly.
As for ICE cars catching fire, they literally do. Not like the movies but an accident that is bad enough and there is a fuel leak that has a high chance to catch fire. Fuel lines can also dry rot or the 12V system can fry itself if there is a fault in a place that won’t hit a fuse.
Also a quick google: https://www.evengineeringonline.com/did-you-know-ice-vehicles-pose-fire-risks-60-times-higher-than-evs/
That’s from over a year ago, but again goes to show that gas cars catch fire orders of magnitude more often per capita. Oddly enough, hybrid shows over twice the rate of non-hybrid ICE apparently due to them being more complex than traditional ICE or full EVs.
The grid could under real leadership. Your vampire squid parasitic infection is the problem here.