• Nobody@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    They either deliberately targeted a journalists’ kids and family or indiscriminate bombing of the “safe zones” in the south were so thorough that they hit his family along with everyone else. The first is terrible, but the second is horrifying.

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      Pretty sure it’s the second one. They’re not even pretending to target Hamas anymore, they consider anywhere in Gaza a valid target. I don’t think they’re going to stop until every building in Gaza has been leveled, and I bet the US and UN will just wag their finger and do nothing, if they even do that.

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        1 year ago

        I think honestly that in part you’re right. I think on the 7th Hamas gave Bibi’ his wish and he knew he could completely remove Gaza likely before being arrested for his warcrimes. It’s horrific and I hope he especially faces the charges in the ICC and then later enjoys burning in hell.

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          Bibi gave Bibi bibi’s wish. In about 30 years when the full story is out and after gaza is abandoned by Palestine for being wholely unlivable we will almost certainly find Israeli money in hamas pockets that was funneled through iran by third parties.

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            Hamas came to power, really came to power by working with Bibi who was trying to unseat Perez. A two state solution looked very likely, and Perez and Arafat could have made it happen. Perez was in the lead, and Israel was still backing the two state solution.

            At that time, Hamas waged a campaign of suicide bombings and bombed buses full of civilians. This delivered a less than 1% victory margin to Bibi, who would have lost otherwise. Arafat helped Hamas by not cracking down on them as Israel was asking (bc it was politically unpopular with the Palestinians), and inadvertently helped them get rid of Perez, the two state solution, and ironically himself from leadership. Bibi exists because Hamas wanted him there and theyve been bedfellows ever since.

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      Third, and I am NOT claiming this is the case but it is a possibility, is that Hamas was operating where his family was and successfully added another PR story by using them as shields.

      Repeat I’m NOT claiming this is the case, but if you’re debating possibilities, that is one of them as well.

      Disclaimer: Bombing civilians is a war crime, I condem the IDF for it and hope that trials happen in the ICC. Intentionally targeting civilians is literally one of the defined war crimes. I do not support what happened here. I also condemn Hamas for hiding among and intentionally using a civilian population as shields which is also a war crime.

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        Creating a safe zone, telling everybody to move to it, and then bombing targets there anyway isn’t a great look

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          Its more than bad optics, it’s an outright egregious war crime, and those responsible need to be held accountable at the ICC.

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        Israel is not a member of the ICC, so even if there are trials they won’t have jurisdiction, meaning that it would be rather symbolic ruling with very little impact.

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          1 year ago

          The pro hamas lovers here hate objectivity and reason. But negative magic internet points is a non-issue compared to standing up to these monsters.