• merthyr1831@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    They stopped defending themselves roughly 3 days before the Hamas attack. Not sure what level of genocide was comfortable to you?

    Those tunnels were always a propaganda tool of Israel too, by the way. They were built because of the total blockade of Gaza that made tunnels the only method for Palestinians to trade with Israel and the wider world (Remember Israel blockades Gaza’s access to the ocean too!). If these were purely military in their purpose, Israel would’ve cleared them all out a long time ago but the reality is that these tunnels were a benefit to the economy of both sides.

    Hamas using those tunnels to resist the Israeli occupation and cleansing of Palestinian communities is a side-effect, sure, but you’re clearly too receptive of the propaganda of Israel if you think tunnels are an excuse for indiscriminate bombing of civilian infrastructure.

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      1 year ago

      Are you joking right now? Those tunnels, aka the Hamas highway are absolutely fair game in this war. Just like Ukraine destroyed infrastructure to hinder the Russians advancing, the routes of supply are a part of the theatre of war and always have been.

      As sad as it is, this bombing wasn’t indiscriminate. They had a large number of targets including high value ones located in the area. The area is sitting on top of a tunnel system known to be used to traffic materials used to attack Israel. I don’t agree with Israel bombing a refugee camp but I also don’t agree Hamas putting all of those people intentionally at risk like they intentionally did.

      As has been noted countless times, when Hamas stops using human shields, this madness will stop much faster.

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        1 year ago

        Hamas hasn’t even been in control of half of palestine for decades and you know what happened there? MORE violence against the occupied palestinians. MORE displacement. MORE settlement and murder.

        The part Zionist apologists wont admit is that Hamas and their armed resistance is the only reason Gaza has survived as long as it has. Making colonists afraid of setting foot in Gaza is the only reason there’s any palestine left to fight over.

        If Israel disappeared tomorrow, the genocide stops. If Hamas disappeared tomorrow, the genocide continues.

        Those are the stakes. But don’t let me stop you cheering on the death of children behind the crocodile tears of “but hamas”.

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          1 year ago

          This is the sort of propaganda that I just have to laugh at. History proves you entirely wrong, and unfortunately because of the likes of you and your bigoted brethren, Israel isn’t going to have a choice but to wipe Hamas entirely off the map. You’re probably one of those people who claim Hamas doesn’t operate out of the West Bank. Hamas will take a lot of civilians with them, including the cancer patients in desperate need of the fuel Hamas is stockpiling but they’re gone. It’s only a matter of time now that Gaza city has been encircled.

          You love the blood shed. You love stoking the flames of hate. You’re getting what you wished for, I hope you enjoy it. No sane person would.

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            Lmfao you started this threat pretending the violence was too much. You’re almost gagging at the opportunity to hop on a merkava tank and crush what’s left of Gaza city into dust. How many dead kids will make you happy? because earlier you looked like you’d have said 0 but once you’re pushed even slightly you’re practically salivating for death as long as the fascists tell you one of the dead was a bad guy.

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              1 year ago

              You’re the blood thirsty one calling for the destruction of the state of Israel. That’s the rhetoric that’s going to sadly lead to many people dying.

              That’s on you and your Anti-semitic ilk. Your the people willing to spill the blood of the Palestinians in your hatred of Jews, and now the Jews are simply fed up and are meeting your kind on your level.

              You’re kind just isn’t good enough to come out alive here.

              When you stop, so will the violence.

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                1 year ago

                Where is the antisemitism in this conversation? I just don’t see it. Do you think opposition to Israel’s genocidal conduct is the same thing?

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                  1 year ago

                  Calling for a ceasefire…is literally calling for Jews to accept their slaughter. Hamas said just YESTERDAY, they intend on continuing to murder Jews until Israel has been destroyed.

                  If you can’t see how that lopsided ‘accountability’ is deeply Anti Semitic, that’s your problem.

                  Calling out the Israeli government for its actions is far different from from the country shouldn’t exist or that it should stop defending itself when the other party has made clear they will continue to murder if that happens. I’ve yet to see the Palestinian supporters calling for Hamas to stop sending rockets into Israel. 6000 by last count.

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                    1 year ago

                    Convenient for the radical right-wing government of Israel that the only possible thing they can do is exterminate everybody they don’t like.