• Flying Squid@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    That’s funny, someone in another thread who had almost certainly not seen it told me it was terrible. And “it has nothing to do with gender.”

    Honestly, my issue with it is that you have to see Captain Marvel, Ms. Marvel and Wandavision for this movie to work, which means this movie is for Disney+ subscribers and they’re not being up front about that at all. But if people like it, fine. I’m glad they do.

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      Marvel’s main trick is that they make movies where you don’t need to watch the others, but you get little extra credit points if you have. So I actually don’t think you need to see the Disney+ show.

      The real problem is either that people THINK you need to have seen the other shows/ movies, or people who haven’t seen them just don’t care.

      Like Spiderman isn’t just a superhero story, he’s a multimedia IP that gets people out to see whatever he’s in. The broader fan base of the main characters here just aren’t as big.

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        10 months ago

        Maybe in some of the movies, but with some of them, like the Dr. Strange sequel… if you didn’t watch Wandavision, you would have no idea what is going on. A huge amount of it involves the aftermath of Wandavision.

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          10 months ago

          Can confirm. I read all of these stories back in the comics, saw most of the movies, but never watched Wandavision. I had no understanding of why she was suddenly the villain.

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            10 months ago

            To be honest I watched WandaVision and didn’t really understand why she was suddenly the villian. It’s like they cut a scene from the ending of WandaVision or the beginning of Doctor Strange that would have developed her motives better. But that’s generally the issue right now (in my opinion), they aren’t spending enough time developing the characters.

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              10 months ago

              MoM was written before Wandavision was finalized iirc.

              It felt like they just undid a ton of her plot development in the opening bits of MoM.

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          Usually I can wrap up the basic plot points from a relevant show on the way to the theater. I was actually surprised this movie too scenes right out of the show to introduce the character

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          Yeah, I was very much a fan of the first Dr. Strange movie and was looking forward to the sequel, but I was not a fan of Wandavision so when I found out the movie was basically Wandavision II (with guest appearance by Dr. Strange) I just didn’t bother.

          This is a problem for any franchise that tries to interweave its shows too closely, as soon as one comes along that leaves a sour taste in my mouth anything else that’s closely entwined with it comes with a poison pill. Having a common fictional setting is great but moderation is needed and great care must be taken not to “break” it. I’ve dropped out of several other franchises that I used to think I would be a life-long fan of because of modern attempts to revamp the setting that just ruined them IMO.