Both Russia and the elected government of Gaza (Hamas) target civilians intentionally. Hamas even targets Gaza hospitals. Probably thought false flagging Israel would be great PR, and it did work well on the worldnews crew.
I’d say Gazas elected government, and Russia are much closer.
Fun fact, when the actual facts and empirical data don’t support your false narrative, you claim facts don’t matter and that there’s no such thing as facts.
LOL, I also understand a false character attack, like accusing someone of supporting the killing of PoC, when your argument is factually bankrupt and poorly reasoned. Makes sense, and it suits you.
I DO support killing all members of Hamas because they’re terrorists and intentionally target civilians and have always done so. Nice try on the libel, though.
ok, for the eternally slow, there can be no accurate political polling done in an authoritarian regime, it’s like going around and asking people in Nazi Germany if they support the Nazis, what are you going to do say no and get put into the camps?
and how is “Hamas” defined? to kill all members of Hamas you need to kill every single Palestinian to be sure
Anyone harping on how Hamas is the “elected” government when they haven’t had elections in, what, 16 years, is just simping for Netanyahu’s genocide. I see you felt the need to say “elected” twice just to be really obvious about it.
It’s important to counter these false narratives being thrown about that they’re not the official elected government with, to this day, majority support amongst residents.
Trying to inject reason and facts into this proHamas circle jerk isn’t trolling. But I can see how facts that conflict with false narratives could incite the guilty individuals.
You are advocating in support of the IDF, even when they commit terrorist acts. You make excuses for the terrorist actions, bringing in other terrorist actions, as if one form of terrorism is justified in response to the other.
It’s not antisemitic to be anti Isreali government. Especially when they have been actively doing terrible things for years. Like targeting journalists
Israel targets civilians. The vast majority of buildings targeted by Israel since 7 Oct have been “power targets”, which, by their own definition, are targets that do not have significant military value but have value in that they can destablise civilian life such that the civilians might put pressure on the government to change.
Israel are literally using violence against civilians to achieve a political goal. That is the very definition of terrorism.
No one can argue that the events of 7 October were not terrorism. Roughly 2,000 people invaded Israel to commit terrorist acts. In response, Israel have committed their own form of terrorism and killed 20,000 people, very few of which were actually members of Hamas.
Your argument is a near perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.
Oh, please tell me what you think of IDF killing their own:
An initial IDF probe into the hostage killing incident suggests all three men were shirtless, with one carrying a makeshift white flag.
On seeing them, one Israeli soldier shouted “terrorists!” to the other forces, initiating fire at the men, according to reports.
While two hostages were hit immediately and fell to the ground, the third managed to escape into a nearby building where despite pleas in Hebrew, he was also shot and killed, a military official said.
In an environment where that’s the standard tactic of Hamas, hide behind civilians, yeah, I understand the friendly fire. This is Hamas. They blew up their own hospital, hoping ppl like worldnews would blame Israel for it… and they did.
If you think that while hiding amongst civilians or while keeping hostages they aren’t trained to try and appear like innocents, then I don’t know how to help you. It’s literally their main tactic.
According to the IDF, Hamas did not fire a rocket on the hospital. They attributed that to the Islamist Jihadist group - a separate organisation.
Meanwhile, all the “tunnel networks” under Al Shifa hospital, that Israel touted as proof of Hamas using hospitals for military purposes, were in fact basement operating rooms that Israeli contractors built in the 1980’s, and so far have not been shown to be connected to any military tunnels.
Both Russia and the elected government of Gaza (Hamas) target civilians intentionally. Hamas even targets Gaza hospitals. Probably thought false flagging Israel would be great PR, and it did work well on the worldnews crew.
I’d say Gazas elected government, and Russia are much closer.
Demographic from Wikipedia:
0–14 years: 44.1% 15–24 years: 21.3% 25–54 years: 28.5% 55–64 years: 3.5% 65 years and over: 2.6%
something like 75% of all Gazans were either not born or not of voting age when the last elections were held 16 years ago.
Goddamned time traveling Palestinians!
As though this changes the fact that they’re the officially elected government in Gaza and that 57% support them from the latest polling?
Weird perspective.
damn, imagine you need to justify killing brown people so hard you would use Assad support numbers.
Fun fact, there can be no accurate survey of opinion in a region controlled by a group that kills you for having the wrong one
Fun fact, when the actual facts and empirical data don’t support your false narrative, you claim facts don’t matter and that there’s no such thing as facts.
LOL, I also understand a false character attack, like accusing someone of supporting the killing of PoC, when your argument is factually bankrupt and poorly reasoned. Makes sense, and it suits you.
I DO support killing all members of Hamas because they’re terrorists and intentionally target civilians and have always done so. Nice try on the libel, though.
ok, for the eternally slow, there can be no accurate political polling done in an authoritarian regime, it’s like going around and asking people in Nazi Germany if they support the Nazis, what are you going to do say no and get put into the camps?
and how is “Hamas” defined? to kill all members of Hamas you need to kill every single Palestinian to be sure
Anyone harping on how Hamas is the “elected” government when they haven’t had elections in, what, 16 years, is just simping for Netanyahu’s genocide. I see you felt the need to say “elected” twice just to be really obvious about it.
It’s important to counter these false narratives being thrown about that they’re not the official elected government with, to this day, majority support amongst residents.
Lmfaoooo you’re a complete troll. “It’s important to counter false narratives” when every narrative you provide is clearly false.
You are qutie clearly intentionally inciting people, and it isn’t really working in your favour here.
Trying to inject reason and facts into this proHamas circle jerk isn’t trolling. But I can see how facts that conflict with false narratives could incite the guilty individuals.
No one here is pro-Hamas.
You are pro-terrorism, so long as the terrorists are on “your team”.
Exactly what I’m trying to tell you. Stop being pro-terrorist. It’s awful.
I’m not. I’m against all terrorism.
You are advocating in support of the IDF, even when they commit terrorist acts. You make excuses for the terrorist actions, bringing in other terrorist actions, as if one form of terrorism is justified in response to the other.
It’s not antisemitic to be anti Isreali government. Especially when they have been actively doing terrible things for years. Like targeting journalists
Absolutely, fuck Bibi and fuck Likud. And before October, there are a slew of war crimes they should be tired for at the ICC.
and the IDF targets civilians even when they aren’t “at war”, your point being?
Israel targets civilians. The vast majority of buildings targeted by Israel since 7 Oct have been “power targets”, which, by their own definition, are targets that do not have significant military value but have value in that they can destablise civilian life such that the civilians might put pressure on the government to change.
Israel are literally using violence against civilians to achieve a political goal. That is the very definition of terrorism.
No one can argue that the events of 7 October were not terrorism. Roughly 2,000 people invaded Israel to commit terrorist acts. In response, Israel have committed their own form of terrorism and killed 20,000 people, very few of which were actually members of Hamas.
Your argument is a near perfect example of the pot calling the kettle black.
Oh, please tell me what you think of IDF killing their own:
In an environment where that’s the standard tactic of Hamas, hide behind civilians, yeah, I understand the friendly fire. This is Hamas. They blew up their own hospital, hoping ppl like worldnews would blame Israel for it… and they did.
If you think that while hiding amongst civilians or while keeping hostages they aren’t trained to try and appear like innocents, then I don’t know how to help you. It’s literally their main tactic.
According to the IDF, Hamas did not fire a rocket on the hospital. They attributed that to the Islamist Jihadist group - a separate organisation.
Meanwhile, all the “tunnel networks” under Al Shifa hospital, that Israel touted as proof of Hamas using hospitals for military purposes, were in fact basement operating rooms that Israeli contractors built in the 1980’s, and so far have not been shown to be connected to any military tunnels.