• UsernameHere@lemmings.world
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    11 months ago

    The GOP as a party supports fascism yes. But individual members of Congress are on a spectrum and can be influenced to vote in our best interests.

    That’s why there are almost always some members that aren’t voting along their party lines. It’s happened like this since the inception of our government.

    That’s why diplomacy is important.

    Just look at how democrats won concessions from the house on the spending bill recently and made republicans look stupid in the process.

    That happened because of diplomacy. Your approach would’ve resulted in a government shutdown instead.

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      11 months ago

      individual [GOP] members of Congress are on a spectrum and can be influenced to vote in our best interests.

      If you truly believe that, I have a mountain chalet in Florida to sell you.

      Name one time since 2016 that anything good came from negotiating with the GOP on immigration. Hell, name one time in this MILLENNIUM.

      there are almost always some members that aren’t voting along their party lines

      Anything even resembling change for the better on immigration being amongst the exceptions that makes your “almost” necessary.

      Just look at how democrats won concessions from the house on the spending bill

      Spending is not the same thing as immigration. While fascists don’t like social programs that benefit those who need help, they don’t have an automatic visceral fear and hatred of them like they do with immigrants.

      made republicans look stupid in the process.

      As an aside, they were already doing that themselves

      Your approach would’ve resulted in a government shutdown instead.

      No. The Republicans hold the federal government hostage every time raising the debt ceiling comes up. It’s as much part of what they do as demagougery in general is.

      Letting them persecute and otherwise abuse immigrants more or less doesn’t change that. It just lets them persecute and otherwise abuse immigrants more.

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        11 months ago

        The idea is to negotiate in good faith to show that is our stance and not give in to bad faith negotiations.

        If we don’t negotiate at all then there’s no way forward.