• purahna@lemmygrad.ml
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    1 year ago

    The US naval institute? that’s not really subtle

    but really now, why are we calling this a “provocative pass”, China literally borders one side of the strait. The US makes passes there all the time and I don’t see the US Naval Institute calling it “provocative”.

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    1 year ago

    Chinese Military Aircraft, Ships Make Provocative Passes Through Chinese Airspace/Waters

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      RTA, it says right on the line and into the air defense identification zone, meaning they were intentionally trying to piss off Taiwan and by extension, Taiwan’s western allies. Needless posturing. Is it news? Not really. Does it have more nuance than you give it credit for? Yes.

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        The territory is contested. Meaning, China claims that this is their territory and they have a right to be there and the US claims it isn’t their territory and they don’t have a right to be there. The difference is, this is basically within eyesight from mainland China while US vessels that perform these same aggressive maneuvers are one third of a globe away from their home country.

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              1 year ago

              I’m pretty sure “closer to” is a concept from geometry and not politics. I don’t need any additional sources to check my claim thanks.

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                Alright, it’s way closer to China then it is to the USA, why are there US fighter jets and battleships there at all? Pretty sure the half way point is somewhere past the Philippines.

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                  1 year ago

                  I’m not familiar with the details but I would imagine it has something to do with the Taiwanese government being okay with it.

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                Do you support the US ceasing diplomatic relations with PRC in favour of ROC and going back to the time before Nixon made rapprochement?

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                  If the PRC will call off diplomatic relations over something as simple as recognizing a country next to China, we need to be ready for that war anyway because that kind of gaslighting only expands if you play along.

                  I don’t believe China would go dark in response to us recognizing Taiwan. If they would do that over something so petty, we need to be treating them as a hostile, non-communicating entity anyway.

                  So basically, if we model China as willing to sever diplomatic relations over that, we should model them as already having severed diplomatic relations.