• iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    I mean stop touching the damn boats. People be touching US boats like 4 times in history and it always turns out bad.

    The Imperial Japanese Navy sank 8 US boats and we dropped the Sun on them. Twice.

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      The Houthis are blocking Israeli ports in response to genocide.

      Why were US ships going to the ports of a country actively committing genocide?

      The US is now bombing a sovereign nation to stop trade sanctions on a genocide.

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        Why were US ships going to

        They weren’t. While you may disagree with US Navy hanging out in the area, they’re in international waters and not trying to go to Israel. You could argue that attacking US ships proves the blockade story is a farce

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        You don’t get to seal off a critical global shipping route just because you happen to be living next to it and don’t like where some of the cargo is going. This isn’t like the bosphorous, even a recognized Yemeni government wouldn’t have control over who can transit the strait unless they invaded Djibouti

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      That’s the problem, you touch a US boat and you get bombed, the US fucks an entire region over and they face no consequence

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      The US is willing to kill untold number of people because otherwise the cheap shirts made by children in Bangladesh will arrive slightly late. I do hope for this evil empire to fucking die already.

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        For Bangladesh it’s probably faster to go east to get to the US. The majority of ships going through the Suez Canal are trading with Europe.

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        No civilians died in the first strikes, and I’m not aware of any sources claiming any civilian deaths in these strikes either, which is probably to be expected given that they were against a military air base.

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          Would you change your mind if Houthi soldiers died? What is civilians would die?

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            I’m not going to feel particularly bad about people with the slogan “Death to America, death to Israel, a curse on the Jews” being killed in combat in a retaliatory military strike.

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      Looked at a non paywall source, it was the US advising ships to avoid the area for the next couple days because they plan on doing more strikes and don’t want other ships caught in the crossfire

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          They are protecting their civilians or the ones they can benefit from, and killing others who are not, they are not doing this in good faith

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          6 months ago

          Cargo ships can take a longer route, they don’t need to be there. The US values cargo over human lives.

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            Cargo includes food, clothing, fuel, building materials and other necessities of life. Fucking with global trade causes inflation, which primarily affects the poorest people. Also, global trade underpins the peace and security of all 8 billion people on Earth. No one group has the right to disrupt the global system of trade over their petty local disputes. If they do, they should expect to feel the full wrath of the rest of the world. Frankly, I’m surprised that the Houthis are being handled with such a light touch so far.

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              The whole world watches as Israel commits genocide. The Houthis are brave to try to slow down the massacre of the Palestinian people, even though they themselves have been subject to a brutal war against them by the US and Saudi Arabia. If you care about the poorest people, then hold the capitalists responsible. They raise the prices on the poor and for any made up reason. We’ve seen this in the last couple years a when they pretended that it was inflation while they hoarded more and more wealth. Let them pay the skipping delay out of their own pockets first.

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            The longer route costs an additional million dollars in diesel alone. Even if you don’t care about the enormous economic impact, the environmental impact alone is huge.

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              Oh okay, so we’re killing people over causing environmental damage? Let’s murder the CEO of Nestle, BP etc. They deserve it way more!

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                You know that isn’t what I am saying.

                As far as I’m aware, there have been no reports whatsoever of non-military targets being hit in the strikes. Targeting the infrastructure being used by a non-state group to disrupt the most critical trade route on earth is absolutely proportionate.

                The CEOs of those companies should be prosecuted instead, however there is not appropriate legislation for environmental damage in the UK and US.

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                  6 months ago

                  Just like how Israel “only targeted valid military targets,” right? Yeah…

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                  You know that isn’t what I am saying.

                  It is what you’re implying. Even in this very comment: you just assume that violence is appropriate for protecting a trade route, but we have to be very nice to CEOs of companies that destroy the environment and use slave labor. Please examine your own biases and see the consequences.