• Doug [he/him]@midwest.social
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    1 year ago

    I really cant be bothered citing more

    You haven’t cited anything. You’ve made reference to them at best. Saying a thing is not citing it.

    Sanctions in general impoverish and kill many. They are a type of light economic mass murder.

    So then things like Russia sanctions are bad too? If so what do you suggest as an alternative? If not when do you draw the line?

    I think what we actively do and did, is MUCH WORSE.

    You made that clear, but you didn’t really express how. Have we been responsible for more death? More negative impact to lives? If that, how is it measured? Does it make a difference how much time it has been going on? If we’ve killed less per year is that better?

    If one guy kills your family in front of you, but the other pokes you with a needle every day of your life, who do you have stronger feelings about? Who is the bigger villain?

    Yes, America has a history of being terrible, and it doesn’t look like it’s stopping any time soon, but it’s just the most obvious, current bad guy. That doesn’t make it the biggest in history or now. That doesn’t excuse current practices, but it also doesn’t mean hyperbole (real or perceived) is going to help you.

    • nekat_emanresu@lemmy.ml
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      1 year ago

      I’m not going to reply to new lines of thought, I don’t feel you replied to anything I have said in good faith.

      For example, misusing the word “citation” isn’t noteworthy, but yes I misused it, pretend I said mention or reference. You didn’t respond to the US artificial famine in Yemen that is active today at all.

      I didn’t anticipate you talking about Russian or Chinese sanctions and wasn’t thinking that way. I don’t think sanctions against Russia or China are good or bad, I have no opinion because of the massive propaganda that’s too hard to sift through.

      I was mentioning sanctions in regard to oil rich nations like Venezuela, Iran, Iraq, Yemen. Just like the non-existent weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, the wars and sanctions that I have looked into more, are clearly to prevent oil sales at the expense of starving children and causing unneeded suffering.