Following his trial for defamation of the families of the children and school staff killed in the Sandy Hook massacre, conspiracy theorist Alex Jones is using Valve Corp.’s Steam, the world’s largest digital distribution platform for PC games, to sell an Infowars-themed video game. Jones claims to have earned hundreds of thousands in revenue from the video game, yet he has refused to pay the Sandy Hook families. Alex Jones: NWO Wars also mirrors and cartoonishly repackages the conspiracy theorist’s regularly violent, hateful rhetoric despite the platform’s policies against hate speech.

  • Ook the Librarian@lemmy.world
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    THIS is why it’s like pulling teeth to get a pizzagater to make ONE real claim.

    I gave you 3 claims, and you picked your own 4th.

    Would you like me to read one of those 3 claims?

    Instagram was used to joke about child abuse.

    So let’s see we’re YOU are finding this instagram stuff. Hmm…

    No, the. Best evidence is the steemit summary above. That made a LOT of people suspicious

    Ok, we know where your BEST evidence is. Let’s figure out this instagram claim.

    Here are the times YOU brought up Instagram:

    At least the guardian’s of the kids in the Instagram photos should have been questioned.


    We are discussing 8 year old emails and Instagram posts.


    Virginia Giuffre was a victim who came forward.

    Only as a middle aged woman. Kids in the Instagram photos would now barely be over 10.


    There are no victims in pizzagate.

    We have photos of some from Instagram.


    That investigation went as far as it could before violating the rights of a private business owner

    No. There was no investigation (sorry, no supporting evidence). “Private business owner” has nothing to do with suggestive Instagram posts involving children.


    You talk a lot about instagram for someone who finds the FIRST instagram picture from your GOLDEN source embarrassing. Here, I’ll add context. I’ll expand the crop. And let see what this fear-mongering document says…

    It’s the “most widely referenced one”. YOU are the one pointing to internet “frenzies” as evidence. An internet frenzy was whipped up about this ONE picture in particular. There are no other pictures related to this child. YOU are claiming the other photos are connected.

    Adding more context makes the evidence look WORSE.

    Also notice that the simple explanation isn’t good enough: “please let me know if there are more”. They want another explanation because then “see, they’re changing their story”. For some reason they want the reader to be suspicious of only ONE explanation. Reality works in a strange way for people who think like this.

    Then every pizzagater ever says, “that’s why you picked THAT photo. Of course the one my opponent chooses one that makes me look silly. They won’t show you the other stuff I sent them. Please read the first paragraph at least, where it says if you don’t see EVERYTHING, you’ll be too ignorant to know the truth.”

    They are always saying “look at everything. but don’t look at anything.”

    The only claim I made is that I have seen no proof of illegal activity. There are plenty of times in my life where I have seen proof of illegal activity. It’s a pretty common thing to see on the news. I don’t see why I should worry about people who have weird tastes in art. I see a lot of mixing pizza, weird art, and sex in that doc, but not kids. I’m worried about one who see that photo as normalization of child abuse. (Here is where that claim of “I’m not claiming THAT photo is what i’m talking about. don’t you see how vague i’m being. look at everything” This is 30-Rock’s “Homonym Game” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZLkcFns8Ks )

    Seeing a girl smiling with masking tape on her arms does NOT look like normalization [i use US spelling]

    Can do you have a picture where she isn’t smiling?

    So it’s not abuse if they enjoy it? Heard of normalisation?

    You are either being very disingenuous here, or you find that image stirring. I do not want to accuse you of anything, but the reason I want a journalist in the loop is because every pizzagater with any sizable voice is WITHOUT FAIL either (a) trying to convince people (including themselves) that SA material of minors is more common than it is or (b) very homophobic.

    The document you provided is teeming with homophobia.

    I am implementing a new rule. I will not engage with pizzagate arguments with people unless they pledge: “There is a gay person in my life that I love, and they live a meaningful, fulfilling life.” That’s probably not hard. Honestly, I don’t care if you know them personally.

    If you can’t do that, I’d rather deal with a more serious mind virus.