trying to stop being so thin skinned:
I had an online discussion with a random, we had a short but intense exchange until he replied and then blocked me, robbing me of a chance to reply.
I feel hurt because I couldn’t reply. To me that means he won. I feel insulted and angry.
Yes, this is something I should talk to about with a shrink, but the therapist I contacted hasn’t replied yet, so I might have to start looking for a new one if this one ain’t reliable.
In the meantime I turn to the second best thing I can think of: this channel.
I can try to rationalize it: I cannot change it, I’m letting that guy live free in my mind, letting it go is the rational thing to do.
Except that here I’m not being rational, but emotional and I don’t know why this triggers me so much.
Not having the last word triggers me. How would you solve this?
If they block you, you never have to hear them again. That sounds like a win for you in my book!
Getting the last word in an argument isn’t a victory.
good advice
One thing to consider: you feel like not being able to reply means the other person “won.” You didn’t mention the context of the discussion, but I find that approaching most conversations like that (win/lose), you’re already too involved. Conversations, debates, etc. are ways we exchange thoughts and ideas. Winning vs losing implies you think you are right and the other person is wrong. If that’s the case, why bother with the convo at all?
The likelihood that you will convince the other pererson they are wrong is very low, especially when you approach it thinking they are wrong. Instead, approach it trying to learn the ins and outs of their argument. Ask questions that make the person really think about their position. People change their own minds. You can’t force them or do it for them.
Someone who withdraws from a discussion and blocks a person didn’t “win”, they ran, and deserve to be ignored.
Eh, sometimes there are bad faith debaters who will follow you online for weeks and try to harass you after you decide its not worth wasting energy on an argument anymore. I’ve definitely blocked such people and not because I (feel like I) lost the argument
Sure, but those are easily spotted and not worth wasting a thought in the first place.
never thought of it like this
In this specific case, I’d say he admitted defeat by blocking you.
Take a deep breath. In these 5 seconds you might feel very upset at this user, and if it’s something that really triggers you it might ruin your next 5 minutes or 5 hours.
In 5 days, will you really care about whatever this user had to say that got you upset? Not really right? Let alone in your next 5 weeks, months or years, this will fade to nothing but a mere trifling squabble. You have better things in life to think and be excited about and worse things in life to worry over.
My advice for something you recognize making you irrationally upset, is try to transport the “How you feel about it in 5 days” into your present mindset so that will give you better perspective.
Just out of curiosity: Why do you ask that quesion every few days?
Keeps getting blocked of course. Gets into arguments frequently online.
… do I know you?
Haha no.
what question did I ask twice every few days?
I mean three days before you asked a very similar question on how to develop a thicker skin and you got lots of answers, some very long and detailed. I think I didn’t reply because I’ve answered that question several times before, pointed to the ancient greek philosophers, stoicism and how to pay attention to the small things around you and focus on positivity and not waste your energy on negativity. That’s generally good advice, but not tailored to your individual situation.
I’m not sure why you ask the same question again. Maybe the answers didn’t help you. Or it’s just me who thinks it’s the same question again but for you this is a different take on a similar topic.
Since you didn’t engage in the previous discussion, I thought I’d ask you a direct question. I mean you could just be venting and running through the 5 stages of grief or something. Anyways, I think it’s a valid question and you should be able to live a happy life.
How did the thing with the failed appointment turn out? Did you get an apology?
I can’t help you with this in the general sense… but trust me, if they block you, you won. That’s a full retreat on their part.
Blocking someone so they can’t counter your point doesn’t mean you win an argument.
Also, internet shit isn’t worth worrying about to this extent. Just try to move on and take comfort in the fact that the other person clearly cared about that exchange WAY more than you do.
A stranger’s opinion shouldn’t hold so much worth.
It really annoys me that you think that
/s
The reason your mind refuses to accept things you can’t change is that there are aspects of t that you can change.
For example, you have a tendency to get caught up in online arguments. You can change that if you want to.
The way to accept the things you can’t change is to carefully separate them from the things you can change, then commit to changing the things you can.
When something is bothering you, don’t just assume your perception of what’s bothering you is correct. In this case you think it’s the other person’s behavior that’s bothering you, but there’s a component to this that is from you, and you can change that.
It’s like you’re asking how to throw away some chicken bones “when there’s nothing left to eat”, but the thing you’re trying to throw away still has some meat on it. It is the meat, not the bones, that is tugging at your mind.
Try to imagine where they’re coming from, their perspective or situation which could potentially lead to their point of view.
There’s actually an astonishing amount of good advice for this type of issue in the last thread you posted - and I note you haven’t particularly engaged in discussion there.
As for this, it’s not an issue of thin skin, and people who would tell you to get a thicker skin are generally not worth your time.
Figuring out why you feel the way you feel is a great first step to creating plans to change what you can change, and mitigating the core issue. Spend time with your thoughts and just “be mindful”. We are biological machines, whenever your body has extreme reactions to things, it’s trying to tell you something. You need to learn to figure out what it’s telling you, so you can give it what it needs :)
Good luck.
I think you’re approaching this in the right way. You know that logically it’s not worth your time to dwell on something you can’t change, but knowing that doesn’t change how you feel about it, because feelings aren’t rational.
You can’t make the feelings go away, but you can find a better way to express them. You came here because you needed to talk about your feelings, and that’s a good start, although in general the internet makes a poor therapist. I would recommend starting a journal, either on paper, in text, or using a voice recorder, whatever feels most natural. Journals are good listeners.
Pay attention to yourself. Allow yourself to recognize your emotions, and how they affect your body. Listen to your breathing. Put a finger on your wrist and try to feel your pulse. Take a moment to be aware of your hunger, your thirst, your aches and pains, and how all of them feed back into your emotions. Work with your emotions, not against them.
Very relatable yet very brave to talk to the „local pub“ about such a private matter.
I have circles I discuss such matters with:
- wife, closest friends, therapist - matters that make me feel very triggered because they know how to get me down
- friends, closed or niche chat rooms to talk about my stuff in general. Often not with clearname but still somewhat private matters
- open spaces (lemmy, reddit, forums). Stuff that does not trigger me so as to not spiral out of control if a troll finds me there
Coming to the problem:
Having someone put in the last word and blocking you is actually very petty and a last resort if someone got triggered themselves. I‘d say it is dumb but I have to say I did so myself if someone was very rude.
Try to think of it like this:
- this person does not know you so their judgement does not concern you
- if they said mean things and blocked they‘re probably very young and didn’t know how to help themselves
- thinking in winning and losing is not helpful at all. You should instead try to learn and help others to learn. Its not important who has done „better“ in a discussion
Btw getting triggered normally is evidence that something has hurt you in the past and not the current interaction is hurting you but it reminded you of a situation where you were hurt. You can try to solve it by speaking about these things with your therapist or close/reflected friends.
I hope this is helpful. I wish you good luck.
You’re at this from the complete opposite of the right angle.
Your reaction is emotional and thus you need to face the emotion and dig at its cause. Emotions aren’t bound by rationality but they’re the core of the human experience, to try and suffocate away emotion you don’t find rational is a sure way to never find happiness.
You felt hurt, why? Why was this argument important to you? Did you feel anything more than hurt? Can you guess at why you felt like you felt?
Feelings are never right or wrong, they just are and will be no matter what you think of them. So you need to accept and acknowledge their existence and learn to understand them, to coexist with them, because they are you. Even more so than your skill in reasoning, your rationality.