On Wednesday, Donald Trump made a pointed statement on Truth Social directed towards Nikki Haley’s donors, writing, “Anybody that makes a ‘contribution’ to Birdbrain, from this moment forth, will be permanently barred from the MAGA camp,” and less than 24-hours later, Haley flipped the attack into a campaign merchandise opportunity.

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    is that a crack in the base? are ‘moderate’ republicans coming out of the ‘i sold my soul to donald trump to be a republican’ fog?

    i doubt it. its not like they had high moral ground to start with.

    doesnt matter what they say, the Rs are going to vote straight R no matter what no matter when. zero critical thinking happening there.

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      No, there’s been a big backlash against Trumpism for awhile now. It’s just not nearly big enough to defeat it. But it’s still something we can use.

      Don’t paint them all into one big camp. That’s what they do to us, and it’s dumb. We’re better and smarter than that. They’re all individuals, otherwise it would just be 100% Trump-train.

      Really, saying all repubs are the same is no different from saying all dems are the same. It’s just not accurate, it’s not the truth. Anything telling you otherwise is shitty propaganda, trying to mislead us from the inside.

      We value truth and honesty, because they’re necessary for progress. The truth is hard, often very ugly and challenging to work with, but its important.

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        do you really think those moderate conservatives arent going to hold their nose again in the general? i dont think they know of any other way.

        thats the real test of ‘humanity vs party’, and conservatives consistently fail.

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          Yes, there are a lot of moderate conservatives that also paid attention in history class and know exactly what a fascist takeover looks like.

          Fascists, libertarians and religious true believers are not always fond of each other. Their party is a coalition party, a function of our two party system. We gain nothing from ignoring this.

          Think about it. Does it help them in any way when they paint us out as all rabid communists trying to destroy America? Not really, it just keeps their base dumb.

          Us painting them out as all happy fascists similarly does nothing helpful for us, it’s just circlejerking.

          Listen to some actual conservatives, so you know what the opposition is up to. It won’t hurt you, you won’t get converted or something, so long as you actually believe in progress. Progress is the unifying element that ties our coalition together, while resistance to change is what ties theirs. Chris Christie fucking hated Trump though. Liz Cheney wants him in prison, and led the Jan 6th committee thing.

          It’s important though. We need a firm grasp on reality, not our own fantasies and oversimplified dream worlds, if we are actually going to put fascism down where it belongs with the massive numbers it will require. We need to focus on the truth, if we want our progress to go in any kind of helpful and healthy direction. I can’t understate how important this is.

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          11 months ago

          Most Haley supporters in NH said they would not vote for Trump in the general.

          i dont think they know of any other way.

          The other way is to stay home on election day. Everyone knows how to do that.