• Deceptichum@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    The only way to stop groups like Hamas from existing is to stop Israel from murdering and oppressing Palestinians and creating generations of trauma.

    Ones cause, the others effect.

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      9 months ago

      There’s all manner of explanations as to why this situation arose, but none of them change the root message here: Fuck Hamas, Fuck Israel.

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        9 months ago

        Quick question: Why Hamas, the government of Gaza, on one hand, but Israel as a whole instead of the Israeli government on the other?

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          9 months ago

          Because Israel is a democracy, and the last time Gaza had an election it was before the majority of them were born.

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          9 months ago

          Because Israel is, despite everything else, still an actual fair democracy. The people of Israel voted for their leaders, and continue to support them. Hamas last had an election in what, 2006? And we have no idea if they support Hamas, there hasn’t exactly been an abundance of reputable polling done in Gaza lately.

          That gotcha kind of fell flat, didnt it

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            9 months ago

            I don’t think they were going for a gotcha.

            I think they were trying to bring more awareness into play about blaming the government for what the government is doing, especially when we can all see all the protest that a lot of Israelis are doing.

            Like you can not in any way group the “Not in My Name” and Bring Them Home crowds with the Likud crowd.