• PugJesus@kbin.social
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    9 months ago

    I’d consider only the Progressives and Outsider Left as in our corner on this one.

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      9 months ago

      and they at least equal the dem mainstay. I assume the “establishment Liberals” are all on a spectrum- some are more centrist while others are more progressive; it’s why I mentioned them separately from the other three and only lumped the two together.

      The point I’m making is that it’s largely the mainstays saying “Vote blue no matter who”, but then they’re the ones not voting blue on progressive candidates as much as they accuse proggresives of not voting blue on centrist candidates.

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        9 months ago

        I assume the “establishment Liberals” are all on a spectrum- some are more centrist while others are more progressive; it’s why I mentioned them separately from the other three and only lumped the two together.

        I don’t know man, I feel like Establishment Liberals are just “Joe Biden without the GOP cockblocking him”, which, while good, is something I would still very much count as much more moderate than progressives.

        https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2021/11/09/establishment-liberals/