I head up a small community for fans of a niche indie brand. The founder is doing an event in Japan with an exclusive item for people who attend! I was so excited and was looking into booking a plane ticket to go!

However… turns out that Japan has a law that absolutely forbids stimulant medication in the country. And, no, I don’t really want to upend my regimen of 8 years and risk going on a new medication for the trip.

I’m really shattered, as I wanted to attend this cool event and meet up with other enthusiasts. It really hurts to be barred from an opportunity like this.

I hate ADHD. I really do.

  • NOSin@lemmy.worldEnglish
    112·
    9 months ago

    So you had to explain a whole geopolitical context but it’s not complex ? That’s also omitting that most of them are like that because “That’s how it is here”, they’re not really racist for any other reasons than the culture being very closed to the outside world in general, it’s not really Xenophobia for the sake of it.

    I’m done trying to have this debate here personally, seems like you and me could have an interesting conversation but the downvotes and answers I get here clearly show people won’t even try to understand the complexity of it, it’s easier to deem all the Japanese racists apparently.

    • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.eeEnglish
      91·
      9 months ago

      So you had to explain a whole geopolitical context but it’s not complex ?

      I mean, you made a geopolitical statement. Obviously it’s going to require context. Is that context complex? I don’t really think so, considering I only used a few paragraphs of info.

      they’re not really racist for any other reasons than the culture being very closed to the outside world in general, it’s not really Xenophobia for the sake of it.

      The theory that Japan was completely isolated for 250 years is a common misunderstanding of the isolationist tendency of Edo period. There were still massive amounts of trade happening between Japan and nations like Korea and China, and even a fair amount of trade from the Dutch. And both Korea and China had foreign nationals living in Japan.

      The idea of ethnic supremacy was an import from Europe during the Maiji restoration, claiming that it stems from their isolationist past is a clear historical revisionism, and it detracts from the many crimes against humanity they conducted upon their neighbors.

      it’s easier to deem all the Japanese racists apparently.

      Apparently it’s easier to ignore recent history and just argue with grand sweeping statements.

      • NOSin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        112·
        9 months ago

        You want to be right, and read what you want (or you wouldn’t even have answered, among others things), so yes, you’re right.

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.eeEnglish
          71·
          9 months ago

          You want to be right, and read what you want

          No, I’m Korean and still have family members who experienced first hand the horrors of ethnic conflict brought to them by the government of Japan. The types of crimes that the Japanese government still denies and still attempts to white wash out of history.

          Maybe actually pick up a history book about the topic some time? Or, maybe try reading about the history of Japan somewhere other than a manga?

          • NOSin@lemmy.worldEnglish
            110·
            9 months ago

            Maybe try reading ? I explicitly stated why you’re talking in the air, you really want to be right, while thinking your past justifies any of that eh ? (Protip, that was just an argument of authority to use your nationality like that)

            Learn not to care on the internet and when to stop, it’ll do you a great deal of good.

            And before you cue in your next answer, read the sentence above.

            • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.eeEnglish
              51·
              9 months ago

              You want to be right, and read what you want (or you wouldn’t even have answered, among others things), so yes, you’re right.

              Ahh yes, how could anyone not understand such clear and powerful writing… it’s like talking to a Toaist with a concussion.

              I explicitly stated why you’re talking in the air, you really want to be right, while thinking your past justifies any of that eh ?

              I don’t think you understand what explicitly means…

              Protip, that was just an argument of authority to use your nationality like that)

              Lol, it was a rebuttal you idiot. I was confronting your claim that my information was discreditable because my knowledge of a subject is biased by my own research interest. Do you even know about Korean and Japanese history? Or have any idea why a Korean person may have a better understanding about Japanese ethnic conflict?

              Learn not to care on the internet and when to stop, it’ll do you a great deal of good.

              Lol, do you think the equivalent of “I’m rubber your glue” is an actual defensible argument? Or is that just what you do when you get slapped around in an argument?

    • yuriy@lemmy.worldEnglish
      72·
      9 months ago

      You just said “it’s complex” and didn’t elaborate, implying it’s too complex to explain in this setting. Someone replied and explained the context in a very concise manner. There’s more then one single force at play, sure, but arguing whether or not that constitutes “complex” is just arguing over the definition of a word.

      Speaking of words and their definitions, no one but you is conflating “xenophobia” with “willful racism”. Those are two completely different things. Someone said xenophobia and you’re now going all in on some strawman that’s apparently accusing every japanese person of being a racist.

      There is absolutely a conversation to be had here, approaching it as a debate is probably contributing to all the perceived conflict.

      • NOSin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        110·
        9 months ago

        The guy I answered to talked about “imperial fascism”, are you gonna argue that it doesn’t entail racism ?

        A debate isn’t a conflict originally, that’s a very US thing. A debate is supposed to be point of views exposed from both sides, so each can learn from the other.

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.eeEnglish
          61·
          9 months ago

          The guy I answered to talked about “imperial fascism”, are you gonna argue that it doesn’t entail racism ?

          Are you denying that the imperial Japanese government wasn’t committing crimes against humanity based on the ideology of ethnic supremacy?

          I wasn’t conflating xenophobia with willing racism, I was explaining where the xenophobia hailed from, by confronting your claim that this xenophobia was a result of an often misunderstood span of isolationist tendencies.

          A debate isn’t a conflict originally, that’s a very US thing. A debate is supposed to be point of views exposed from both sides, so each can learn from the other.

          Maybe between two people educated on the topic… There’s no common ground when one person is just making shit up and not providing any supporting evidence.

    • emptiestplace@lemmy.mlEnglish
      61·
      9 months ago

      Sometimes it’s less about people being unable to handle the sophistication of your erudite expressions and more about you acting like an idiot.

    • Lhianna@feddit.deEnglish
      31·
      9 months ago

      You were done with this debate 24 hours ago and yet you’re still here trying to “prove” your point (although I still haven’t seen any proof).

      • NOSin@lemmy.worldEnglish
        13·
        9 months ago

        Not proving anything, just correcting people on the bullshit they try to attribute to me, like you just did.

        • TranscendentalEmpire@lemm.eeEnglish
          2·
          9 months ago

          You can’t correct people without attempting to prove they are wrong…

          Correcting someone (aka rebutting a claim) automatically means you are engaged in Discourse (aka debate).

          If you don’t want to be involved in discourse, then don’t make claims. If you want to make claims, don’t be surprised when people disagree with them and offer rebuttals.

        • Lhianna@feddit.deEnglish
          11·
          9 months ago

          Or, and I know it sounds like a crazy concept, you could go and learn something about Japanese culture and/or autism that’s not just stereotypes. That might actually do you some good.