When I first saw shadowbanning used, it was targeted at spammers. Spammers know their behavior is unwelcome, expect to get banned, and have probably figured out how to make new accounts despite attempts to stop them. Making it harder for them to tell when they’ve been banned slows them down and reduces spam.
Trolls share the same traits, and it’s probably a good fit for them as well.
Any serious attempt at spamming would have mechanisms in place to check for shadow banning. For example, on reddit if I am shadow banned and post a comment, nobody else can see my comment. So I’m a prospective spammer and I have 25 accounts posting spam on a bunch of random threads.
What do I do? I get a few accounts as controls and everytime I post something, I automatically open up the webpage using some sort of webscraper/emulator library like Puppeteer/Selenium and then confirm whether my comment shows up on my control accounts. If my post doesn’t show up in a certain threshold of checks, I scrap that account and start using a fresh one.
Maybe it stops the most basic spammers, but I don’t think it’s worth the collateral damage to individuals. Many people’s main form of communications with the outside world is through the internet. I’ve seen cases of people on reddit being shadowbanned for over a year and posting a comment nearly every day with no response.
I think it’s approaching psychological torture. Even if someone says something that deserves to be banned - I think you should simply tell them what they did wrong and ban them.
When I first saw shadowbanning used, it was targeted at spammers. Spammers know their behavior is unwelcome, expect to get banned, and have probably figured out how to make new accounts despite attempts to stop them. Making it harder for them to tell when they’ve been banned slows them down and reduces spam.
Trolls share the same traits, and it’s probably a good fit for them as well.
Any serious attempt at spamming would have mechanisms in place to check for shadow banning. For example, on reddit if I am shadow banned and post a comment, nobody else can see my comment. So I’m a prospective spammer and I have 25 accounts posting spam on a bunch of random threads.
What do I do? I get a few accounts as controls and everytime I post something, I automatically open up the webpage using some sort of webscraper/emulator library like Puppeteer/Selenium and then confirm whether my comment shows up on my control accounts. If my post doesn’t show up in a certain threshold of checks, I scrap that account and start using a fresh one.
Maybe it stops the most basic spammers, but I don’t think it’s worth the collateral damage to individuals. Many people’s main form of communications with the outside world is through the internet. I’ve seen cases of people on reddit being shadowbanned for over a year and posting a comment nearly every day with no response.
I think it’s approaching psychological torture. Even if someone says something that deserves to be banned - I think you should simply tell them what they did wrong and ban them.