• grue@lemmy.world
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    10 months ago

    However, now is not the time to change it. First, the US democracy must be defended.

    You’re not wrong, but that’s only become more and more true in every election since I started voting. Of course it’s the Republicans’ fault for going off the fascist deep end, but I’m also starting to think the neoliberal Democrats like it that way because it gives them an excuse to demand fealty from progressives while giving fuck-all concessions in return. When does it end?

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      10 months ago

      This is the issue. I really don’t think that politics “accidentally” got to the point that it has. Politicians love power, and some of the best ways to stay in power are to rile your supporters up to near-fanatical levels, as the republicans did, or to have people in a situation where they feel forced to support you, as the democrats are currently enjoying. Regardless of who orchestrated it, I’m sure both parties are ecstatic about the state of the US political climate.

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      10 months ago

      This is why we need to get past First Past the Post election systems.

      It only supports two main parties because votes for other parties are spoiler votes that actually take away from the big party they are most aligned with. The two parties become big tent parties that don’t need to align that closely with the people in it.

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        10 months ago

        Canadians still feeling scorned after eliminating FPTP was a big election point, only to have it fizzle away when third parties clearly started garnering too much support (not that I think it was ever really in the cards regardless) and concerns about proportional representation being too supported by the other parties.

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          10 months ago

          Those honestly sound like better problems to have. I think that being locked into a two party system means that every issue is conflated to be good for one side and bad for the other. It builds a very us-vs-them mentality and boils politics down into a team sport.

          The two large parties in power are actually coalitions of smaller groups and I think third parties having more support would actually be more reflective of how coalitions are divided internally. There is a lack of transparency in a 2-party system with what is happening just under the surface.

          Politics is still a struggle for power, don’t let perfect be the enemy of good.

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      10 months ago

      Revolution and Evolution are more or less the same in terms of their gross outcomes: disruptive change. It’s just the timescale that’s different.