Representative Don Bacon, a Nebraska Republican, told NBC News’ Kristen Welker on Sunday that according to lawyers hired by Congress, “at this point, there’s not a specific crime that’s been committed” by President Joe Biden in the impeachment probe against him.

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    8 months ago

    There’s three problems with that argument, and I don’t want to bore you with text so I’ll keep this short.

    1. This isn’t true.

    2. Even if it were true, that definition of “sex” wasn’t relevant to the statements he made on TV.

    3. I don’t believe his version of events.

    In other words, Bullshit, bullshit, and bullshit.

    For more detail

    1. Two of the three criteria for sex were sticken by the judge during the deposition for being overly broad. The remaining narrow criteria was, verbatim,
    1. Contact with the genitalia, anus, groin, breast, inner thigh, or buttocks of any person with an intent to arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person;

    The definition says “any person” not just Lewinsky. She had contact with his genitals, so they were engaged in sex. To suggest that she was engaged in sex and he was not is a lie.

    1. Outside the deposition where that overly narrow definition of sex was relevant, he looked into a camera on TV and said “I did not have sexual relations with that woman.” He did have sexual relations with that woman. That was a lie.

    2. Lewinsky claimed Clinton groped her during their encounters. That is, by the narrow definition, sex. He said he didn’t touch her at all, and she just sucked his dick. Have you ever had your dick sucked, or sucked a dick? His version of events does not ring true, and given the conflicting testimonies, I’m not inclined to believe the guy that I know is a liar.

    You’re right that facts don’t change. Clinton did lie about his extramarital affairs. Denying facts is something conservatives do. Don’t be like conservatives.

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      8 months ago

      Clinton did lie about his extramarital affairs

      not to Congress, and not under oath. Not technically.

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          8 months ago

          No, he didn’t tho.

          It’s history, and this is getting boring. He didn’t technically lie. You can post as many walls of text as you like, but you can’t change what happened.

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            He did lie in every meaning of the word, and pretending he didn’t is some boomer head-in-the-sand bullshit.

            He said he didn’t touch her breasts, genitals, buttocks, or thighs while she was blowing him. She said he did grab those parts of her body while she was blowing him. He smoked cigars that had been inside of her, but he never touched her? Not once? Not a smack on the ass or a titty squeeze?

            Do you really believe that?

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              7 months ago

              He did lie in every meaning of the word

              But not in the technical aspect as the republicans laid out in their definition while he was under oath.

              Look, you lost this argument the instant you began it, and every time you respond, I’m just gonna reply telling you that. Forever.

              Give. It. Up.

              You’re wrong.

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                7 months ago

                He did lie in the technical aspect as the Republicans laid out in their definition while he was under oath. I’ve already demonstrated that. You haven’t made any argument other than “nuh uh” and you want to dance around like you won.

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                    7 months ago

                    See, you think reality is an argument to win. You can have your opinions, but you don’t get your own facts. I don’t need to convince you.