• just_another_person@lemmy.world
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    7 months ago

    I’m all for people trying to find a better life, and I understand why they come here. Unfortunately, those very same people breaking the existing laws are stoking the flames these ignorant and bigoted assclowns use to sow racial division via their idiotic arguments. The more people that come in illegally, the more these arguments make sense to certain people.

    We need better immigration control, that is for sure. We can’t just let EVERYBODY in. What that looks like, I have no idea, but the vast majority of people making it in to sidestep certain immigration laws are not using the proper channels now anyway, so things seem completely broken. This is not just people walking across the Southern border either, there are plenty of wealthy folks from elsewhere sidestepping the laws as well.

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      7 months ago

      Asking for asylum is not only legal in the US, but in international law. To seek asylum you must stand on US soil.

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        7 months ago

        Seeking asylum would be the “proper channel”. Just walking across the border is not the same as requesting or applying for asylum. This is my point exactly.

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            7 months ago

            There are ports of entry specifically for this purpose. https://www.rescue.org/article/it-legal-cross-us-border-seek-asylum

            You don’t need to sneak into the country and THEN request asylum. You could also drive, fly, or boat, just so long as you declare your request for asylum at the proper port of entry.

            I’m not here arguing the law, or the process, this is just how it is at current, and has been in flux for decades. The problem is that the more people don’t follow these procedures, the more the anti-immigration lobby gets their point made and succeeds in all the fear mongering tactics they employ.

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              7 months ago

              Well, first you have to have an appointment for a point of entry, and in the US you could wait weeks, if not months for that date. But, think what you must.

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                7 months ago

                No. As the link says, anyone requesting asylum at a point of entry will not be turned away. Before you start spouting equally as ignorant shit about the process, get informed. You’re just as idiotic as the bigoted assholes on the other side of your argument. Be better than that.

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      7 months ago

      To my understanding, the majority of undocumented immigrants are here legally, seasonally. They just don’t return to their home country in whatever off season for their industry is.

      So it is important to remember that many of the “illegals” we are dealing with, are only sometimes illegal. And I hate saying it, but during the off season, they are very likely to be victim of literal slave labor, either through lack of payment, paying an illegally low amount, and even human trafficking.

      Whenever fox news starts showing videos of buses of migrants coming to the border with the federal government doing nothing, that’s just footage of seasonal farm workers entering the country.

      We are dealing with a humanitarian issue with global causes and consequences.

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        7 months ago

        Again, my point is not about the why/how people come here. Just about the people who may be twisting the reality for their own purposes. I’m just talking about the mechanics, not the justifications.