Former President Trump on Monday appeared to warn former Georgia lieutenant governor Geoff Duncan against testifying before the Fulton County grand jury in the state’s 2020 election probe.
Driving the news: “I am reading reports that failed former Lt. Governor of Georgia, Jeff Duncan, will be testifying before the Fulton County Grand Jury,” Trump wrote on his Truth Social account on Monday.
- “He shouldn’t. I barely know him but he was, right from the beginning of this Witch Hunt, a nasty disaster for those looking into the Election Fraud that took place in Georgia.”
- Duncan, who criticized Trump’s false election fraud claims in 2020, said Saturday that he had been told to appear Tuesday before the Fulton County grand jury.
- “Republicans should never let honesty be mistaken for weakness,” he wrote in a post on X.
What’s next: Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis appears poised to issue a charging decision on Trump’s alleged efforts to subvert election results.
The big picture: Trump’s Monday Truth Social post comes days after the judge overseeing a separate trial — the federal probe into his alleged efforts to overturn the 2020 election — warned against making “inflammatory statements” that could intimidate witnesses in that trial.
- U.S. District Judge Tanya S. Chutkan said during a Friday hearing that any appearance of witness tampering would increase the need for a speedy trial.
- Trump already faces three criminal trials: In D.C. over efforts to overturn the 2020 election, in Florida over his retention of classified documents and in New York over an alleged hush money payment.
What is it actually going to take to put this fucker in jail? Does he need to intimidate 20 witnesses first? I hate that the justice system feels they need to walk on eggshells around this wanna-be dictator cry baby.
Why 20? Why not 50, or 500? Why not let him stage a coup and attempt to overthrow the government of the United States of America? Oh right, he already did all that stuff and is still walking free.
How do you provide a secret service detail to someone in jail?
Logistics and stupid wording of laws never intended to protect someone so blatantly corrupt, will keep him from ever seeing the inside of a cell. Would be nice if he could be under house arrest with no visitation/internet access though.
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You still have to get fed. Can’t have a person in solitary shouting classified information through the food slot at the guard who doesn’t have a security clearance.
A while back I actually looked into this question.
Former presidents are afforded several things by law, including a salary, a stipend for an assistant, and office space rental, and, of course, Secret Service protection for their lifetime.
However, the protection provided by the USSS is described as a duty to protect the (former) President. It doesn’t describe, what that looks like, how many agents are involved, or so on. It does allocate, though, up to $1,000,000 every fiscal year to provide that protection.
Hypothetically, if Trump were convicted and the punishment included imprisonment, more likely than not, the USSS would simply arrange for the individual to be isolated from any threats inside the prison and hand custody over to the prison. This might look like a member of the USSS being stations at the prison, essentially, as a guard, supervisor, monitor, etc.
I suspect the realistic scenario would look like the individual being put in an isolated wing or some sort of maximum-security facility, and the USSS checking in on a weekly or even daily schedule, and, in exchange, the prison would be allocated some portion of that annual $1,000,000.
Just get one of those cages he used for the Mexican kids and put it right in the secret service office. Boom, problem solved. They don’t even have to leave their desks.
Someone’s gotta change his diapers
You don’t. You throw his ass into solitary confinement since he can’t be in gen-pop, just like you would any other high-profile prisoner.
Depriving him of publicity woul be the worst punishment for this waste of skin.
I assure you, being in solitary confinement, wearing an orange jump suit, and eating prison food is worse. He’ll still lose his publicity too.
With you.
ADX Florence was built for exactly this kind of situation.
Would be a dogshit posting for his detail, but Secret Service is Trumpland anyway so I assume he’ll still have lackeys lining up to get the spot.
Just regular prison guards would do
He’s an old white dude with millions of dollars. He will go to “Club Fed” or more likely some kind of house arrest or probation. Honestly you don’t want him in a real badass prison because that makes him a martyr. If he’s just convicted and ignored that’s a worse punishment as he’ll slide into obscurity.
Just strip him of his citizenship and dump him at the border. Preferably next to the wall on the US side. Tell him he has 1 hour to climb the wall to Mexico or the dogs will be unleashed.
Who cares? They can do time with him if they want I guess.
House arrest with no internet or phone.
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The thing is that the prosecutors have to play by the rules to get him, which takes time, but recently the claws definitely seems to be closing in on him, and the prosecutors have bemig weapons and trump can’t stop the system.
Right now it’s like a tank going very slowly toward Trump, sure it takes time but if the tank operator does everything right, it will get there eventually.
I feel like the whole “the jaws of justice are slowly closing around trump” comment is the narrative version of that looping gif of the truck almost running into the bollard. Academically, I agree with you. But I’m pretty sure the dude is going to be dead from one of the innumerable heath issues he faces before he sees any real consequence. Time will tell I guess, but like others, I’m not holding my breath. If there were any real justice in the world, trump would have died from Covid. That would have at least been poetic justice for his role in that colossal tragedy.
I totally feel what you’re saying and that is scary, but the big difference now is that there are trial dates, we are not in the “at some point” phase anymore.
And allowing witnesses to be intimidated is like allowing trump to have a Javelin in your tank analogy. For the cases to be prosecuted correctly, the necessary witnesses need to give their testimony without fear of retaliation. He needs to be put into pre-trail detainment.
We need to wait until it’s normalized.
I’m convinced that Trump could murder someone live on camera and then claim it wasn’t him, a shapeshifter did it, and get away with it and still have a voter base defending him.
So is he
Quote from January 2016:
“I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn’t lose any voters,”
The Bat-shit crazy right would praise him for flexing his second amendment rights.
You’re missing a few steps that would occur after the murder. Here’s a helpful guide that would explain the path (curtesy of Dayna Craig):
The Narcissist’s Prayer
- That didn’t happen. <—YOU ARE HERE
- And if it did, it wasn’t that bad.
- And if it was, that’s not a big deal.
- And if it is, that’s not my fault.
- And if it was, I didn’t mean it.
- And if I did, you deserved it.
The feds move slowly, but they have their teeth into him now.
Beau Of The Fifth Column has been pretty much nothing but diving into how fucked Trump is, finally, for a few months.
Under Georgia law it is a felony with a minimum of two, maximum of ten years in prison plus a maximum of $20,000 in fines.
Cool. Too bad they’ll ignore it no matter how many times he does it.
I would guess that since charges haven’t actually been filed, he’s going to be in the clear for this one.
LOL, no one, absolutely no one should be surprised by this. Trump has never been in the same room with consequences, Trump has never been in the same zip code as consequences. Trump will continue to do as he pleases until the day he faces consequences. If that day never comes, prepare to eat Trump shit until the day he dies.
I hate this, but it’s so true.
And these cowardly judges and prosecutors will just let him do all this!
Then we’ll be all “surprised” when one witness after another refuse to answer questions or in one way or another sabotages the prosecution’s case, and Trump ends up being acquitted.
Throw his ass in jail. Parade him around in handcuffs. Plaster images of him wearing an orange jumpsuit.
Show the world that he is weak and not above the law.So…Trump did nothing wrong, but he’s telling a witness not to testify to his not-wrongdoing. Got it.
I’m not sure which I find more irritating. Witness tampering or media orgs calling Twitter “X.”
It should only ever be referred to as “X, formerly known as Twitter”. Much like Prince changing his name, this is a bad move for branding, though I suppose Prince didn’t give a fuck about that!
I prefer “Twitter, which Elon Musk refers to as X”
“Twitter, which Elon Musk rebranded as X with an estimated cost of $20 billion”
“…until today. But he’ll lose the rest as well probably.”
Prince changed his name due to conflict with production companies. It was more done in protest as they were retaining so much of the revenue he brought in.
Just twitter is fine. You don’t have to do what an insane billionaire wants.
They should simply do a Prince, call it ‘the social media site formerly known as twitter’ and not mention X at all.
Prince did that because he wasn’t allowed to release albums under the Prince name for some number of years.
So he said “ok fine I’m not Prince, I’m TAFKAP”, all of his fans knew where to see him on tour and how to buy his stuff.
Then when the 5 years or whatever ran out he coincidentally wanted to be Prince again.
Seems like a bad contract by the record company to me.
I still don’t call Facebook “meta”. I always suspected they changed the name in the first place because of the negative press Facebook was getting
But isn’t the product Facebook still called Facebook? It’s the name of the holding company that changed.
It’s still all Facebook to me.
Same with Google. I don’t call them Alphabet.
TIL that’s a real thing and not some weird nickname people were giving to Google. Yeah, im going to call them that either.
Is this the part where we point out (again) that anyone else would be waiting for all this to play out from a jail cell, or at least house arrest, by this point?
Ah yes witness tampering. Completely legal. Its just so great to live in a world where there are no double standards lmao /s
I’ve noticed his base is starting to turn against the billionaire class. I think Trump is turning them against all the rich and powerful that aren’t siding with him basically. And it really seems like he’s trying to get a judge to jail him to make him a political martyr and set off the powderkeg he’s been building for years. He wants a violent uprising to install him in perpetual power so bad.
He is never going to give up as long as he is not behind bars. If a judge ever orders him into custody, he’s going to be dragged out of the courtroom kicking and screaming. They’re probably going to wheel him into jail using one of those wheelchair cart things and a spit guard.
Apparently witnesses who were supposed to testify tomorrow are being called today
Something is definitely coming
Why is this idiot not remanded. This country is a laughing stock.
He hasn’t been indicted for this one yet.
Throw him in the clink, already.
I’d even be OK if they threw him in a hoosegow!
What about the Slammer, though?
(PSA read Snow Crash everybody)
well, that should do it, judge has every signal he’s not going to stop, this should put him in jail.
maybe trump wants the fight about jailing him for witness intimidation/“mah freeaaa speekin” rather than the fight over whether or not he intimidated election officials, stole top secret documents, fraudulently diverted campaign funding and fomented a violent civil insurrection
I kinda think he wants to go to jail?? I dont see how that helps him in an election scenario, but maybe its sinking in deeper and deeper for him that he will not get to that point, the feds will have him in jail before 2024. So maybe his play is to get his insane cult so riled over him being in prison up that thousand of them sacrifice their lives in some kind of futile suicide kooaide style ending to all this?
In U.S. History, men like Trump usually were extreme life-wing types and it didn’t end well for them. I’m shocked so little has happened to him. Everything has been legal and by the book. I’m at the point where I believe that he must be locked up and made an example of or our nation will not survive.
Well, if that wouldn’t be several thousand problems solving themselves…
This is the Georgia case, hasn’t gone to a judge yet. Indictment is supposed to happen any time between now and 9/1.
See my “You Are Here” reply under another comment.
He needs to be grounded, like the child that he is. This judge needs to take away his toys and put him in a corner for some quiet time. Amount of time doubles every time he re-commits the same infraction later.
