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    Dude. Ice Cube has always been “fuck you got mine.” People are only just now noticing?

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    A German Black rapper (Sam Deluxe) once said: “as a black person you can’t really choose your political opinion freely, because one side only wants you out of the country.” Many join the left because it means protection.

    I think parts of hiphop culture fits quite well to a conservative worldview when it comes to money, masculinity and the role of women.

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    Wealth makes people more likely to be conservative, as does age.

    The poor young man who recorded Fuck tha Police is a very different person to the multi-millionaire media star being interviewed on Fox.

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      Early trends for Millenials and young Gen X has them not getting more conservative as they are aging, or at least substantially less so than older generations.

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      Wealth yes, but the age thing might be a myth. It turns out that people solidify their political leanings during major movements. The older generation just happen to be affected by Reaganism and Nixons southern strategy.

      The most conservative leaning generation are not boomers or silver generation, but apparently Gen X.

      Edit: I posted some sources in replies below.

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        There also seems to be a bit of weirdness even surrounding what “conservative” means. It used to mean an intent toward preservation of certain existing institutions/trends and preexisting stability, with a distrust for new institutions that may upset existing social calm. Which often is at odds with beneficial change but isn’t inherently against it, favoring instead that it be slow and precise. When I think of myself as conservative that’s the concept I have.

        The problem is that “conservative” now can also include a group of people for which preserving an existing state (as in condition/mode of being ) is no longer acceptable, the demand either a reverse or entirely new directions.

        As an example that’s a little less hot button - vouchers for private schools. That’s an active novelty and a change from an existing institution, rife with potential long-term impacts on both culture and stability that could be negative, and yet some positions push for it (often without addressing those problems). That’s not a conservative position. That’s a progressive one (maybe not in the direction someone on the left would want obviously).

        Conservative got irrevocably linked with Right due to some preexisting social constructs and the urge to preserve them, but realistically it should hold just as well that a conservative would seek to preserve left-wing establishments as much as right-wing ones, or at least advise any changes to them be slow and incremental to avoid pop-up problems. Admittedly things like technology complicate that due to the speed with which it changes and demands response.

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          While I bet there’s exceptions what has been the general trend for conservative is that they are pleased with the status quo. They are on top and therefore don’t want things to change. When you’re not satisfied you tend to not be as patient. It also help to lack empathy for people not as lucky. Considering that you, commendably, can see the need for change you obviously belong to a different group.

          What is new is that the once who call themselves conservative now instead strive to change things due to a lack of control. They want to go back to the point where they feel they had control, power, and privilege over others.

          And when a group of people who lacks empathy want to take back power it can get dangerous very fast. Suck as January 6:th…

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    Because black people have varied political opinions, the notion of a single “black politics” is kind of racist. The income distribution between working class and top 10 percent of black people is very close to the income distribution between the same white classes.

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    I think it has to do with the fact that the left is actively hostile towards men, to the point where men go conservative.

    It’s one of those “it hurt itself in its confusion” type situations, and that’s coming from a leftist.

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      There’s definitely a subset of people on the left who are outright hostile to men in general… but they’re a barely vocal minority. Anyone who leans right because of them was already halfway there, and was just using them as an excuse to dive headfirst instead of dipping a toe in.

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        I mean I see no reason not to paint the left with a broad brush based on their worst considering they’re chomping at the bit to do the same.

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          Even if that were true, what does that accomplish other than continuing a cycle of increasingly volatile reactionary aggression? Why not be the bigger person, unless you don’t actually want to better society and just want to be “right”.

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            Why not be the bigger person, unless you don’t actually want to better society and just want to be “right”.

            Because being the bigger person accomplishes exactly fucking nothing.