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and thus began the second golden age of piracy
The great thing is it’s so much easier now. About 2 months ago I cancelled all my streaming subscriptions.
“I left everything I own in one torrent…”
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Back to piracy …
Especially since these services will drop their original content after awhile…
Is Willow considered lost media yet?
The era of piracy has returned. 🏴☠️
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It never really left… arrrrr.
What an unusually comedic yet depressing final comments in the article:
It’s an ironic end to the streaming wars. After pouring billions and billions of dollars into constructing supposedly revolutionary streaming platforms, and decimating the business models that had offered the industry stability for decades, the ultimate product looks awfully similar to what companies and consumers were trying to break free from in the first place.Im just gonna parrot what the other person remarked because what they said is pretty on point: I mean this is basically inevitable. We know that capitalism doesn’t actually seek the lowest price as its evangelists usually preach, but the highest - and so there is no way that streaming will not balloon over time to a price comparable to the cable TV plans of the past.
Yarrr
To be fair, capitalism seeks the lowest market clearance price. Until price hikes start showing a lower net return, prices will go up.
Not that I care, me cap’n’s hat never left the boat.
We came back to another cycle of big corporations forgetting they have to be more convenient than pirating.
Can’t speak for anyone else, but just having an actual no logs VPN for less than the cost of one streaming service while also using qbittorrent with the torrent site search function is so much more convenient than spending probably hundreds at this point for streaming services I might only watch anything on once a blue moon.
Money issues aside, it is absolutely maddening to have to navigate through six or eight different streaming services to find the show you want to watch
I pay for spotify. If I want to listen to a song, it’s on spotify. I don’t need a different music streaming service for every single record company. As a result, I don’t pirate music anymore.
To be fair this is also not good though. It’s convenient, sure, but it creates a monopoly that can dictate what they pay to the artists - which is often close to nothing.
Itunes, Amazon music, tidal, YouTube music. It’s not a monopoly yet. Hopefully we can get a few more services, but I don’t see anything competing with this group.
Internet quality lies in “monopoly”. On Internet, the best service has everything and satisfy customers. That’s why piracy is such a strong contender. If a service has less than another, it’s not worth the other. If it has as much but miss features, it’s useless. Price is the final determinator, but if it’s too expensive, people can’t afford it.
Copyrights make the problem worse, because then any copyrighted content exclusive to a platform makes this platform a monopoly, because it’s the only place were you can find this content.
Well that kinda works in general, but the issue is that it’s a never-ending cycle of “cool thing appears”, “cool thing grows and takes over the market”, “cool thing wants to make more money so it becomes less cool”, “it becomes so shitty that people look for alternatives and there are none because it created a monopoly”, “it becomes actually unbearable and folds because people flock to a new cool thing”.
Decentralized stuff kinda helps, but you can still see with e.g. email that there are a handful of giant “instances” and they have a huge control over the space, standards, etc. that others have to follow whether they like them or not. But it’s still possibly to at least compete in that space (see for example ProtonMail) and it rarely becomes a true monopoly.
Mail is not community based, which means it works as a decentralised service. Most other services are better centralised.
As long as we put that “exclusive content” crap aside, every one of them can potentially offer every song if they agree with the artist. That’s where the video streaming services are different. Disney+ and Netflix had many overlapping shows until the shittification started.
Or even more convenient, the arr suite + Plex/jellyfish + Overseer. A docker compose is easy enough to write and get running in minutes
I would definitely love to set up a server for something like Plex if I had enough content to justify it. To me it seems excessive to have a server for just a very small handful of shows, in my case.
Small for now.
I think I’m gonna go sailing the seven seas again.
Around 2010 there was this “pledge” where a website people basically collected a list of things they’d require in order to stop pirating tv shows and movies and I think it came down to:
Provide easy access to large library Provide multi language support, must offer original language Allow downloads/offline viewing Be reasonably priced
Plus some additional stuff I can’t remember.
When Netflix got big, they basically covered it all. Then everyone wanted a piece of the pie.
Back to piracy then. 15$ for put.io ✨🙏
I may have lowered the skull and crossbones, and folded it up, and stored it away, but I never got rid of it. I’m building my Plex server, and sailing the seas again
What’s put.io do exactly?
I did not do a deep dive but it looks like it might be a way to access usenet.
It’s basically a Torrent tracker as a service with a web interface to directly stream your torrents in your browser or to a Chromecast, Apple TV and whatever.
Oh damn. Nice. But I assume that also means I don’t download or ‘have’ any of them right? I’d be paying put.io to store and stream them?
How’s the library?
You pay for the amount of storage you want, then you select whatever torrents you want to download, either via a browser extension or services like chill.institute that look through common torrent search engines for you and give the opportunity to download instantly to your put.io account. You’re completely in charge of your library and put.io won’t show you anything you didn’t download yourself.
Huh. Cool.
Thanks!
So when it comes to watching on my TV is there a reason why put.io is better than just plugging and HDMI cord from my computer to my TV and watching it via that?
I don’t know, perhaps I’m not getting the question.
It’s basically a streaming service with a library that you fill yourself. It doesn’t matter if you use a laptop, app or streaming dongle to watch the content. I’d say that it’s easier to watch content if you already own a dongle like a Chromecast though.
Ah, so it’s like for the ease of watching it versus a cable from your Pc?
Yeah, unless your computer is permanently hooked up to the TV, then it’s probably irrelevant. :)
Thanks for explaining
I mean I can hook up my laptop to an hdmi cable to the TV and it is quite easy
And that’s why I use the questionably legal streaming sites… at this point I have been radicalized enough to find copyright an offensive premise
I got there about 10 years ago, a little after I graduated High School. I realized copyright was stupid before I ever really learned what capitalism is.
arrr, matey
Arr, Sonarr, Radarr, Readarr,…
Is it just me, or have tpb & mirrors gotten EXTRA cancer-y lately
I’m paying for Spotify and Netflix because they are very convenient. I’m not paying for another 5 subscriptions because they maybe have this one show I would like to watch. They worked hard on fragmenting the marked and now they will complain people don’t want to pay for 10 different subscriptions
I just jump from service to service to watch the shows I’m interested in. No way in hell I’m paying for them all at once.
Music services are almost a necessity to me because of the amount of music I listen to, but it’s also a different animal. They all have mostly the same library, so you won’t typically be subscribing to more than one.
The problem with streaming video services is that most people watch a couple genres, and there’s content in every genre on every streaming platform. I watch a lot of scifi, for example. So I would need to subscribe to Apple TV for Silo and Foundation, Paramount+ for Star Trek, etc…
Lol wut. My streaming torrents have never been better!
Yeah. Back in the day you used to wait for your movies to download before you watch them. Now I have Stremio or at least sequential downloads.
Even then, you can just wait around 10-40 minutes in most cases for a 3-5 GB movie to download.
I usually just start a download and search for a torrent on my phone that’s connected to Radarr/Sonarr on my PC.
Huh. That’s not my experience. I usually watch like 8 gb rips of movies and I can watch them right away even though I pay for the cheapest speed my provider has which in practice is like 30 Mbit/s.
I have gigabit and I only download movies via Radarr and movies are automatically moved using a hard link from the download folder to the Plex folder on completion. And I’m never in a hurry anyways to watch a movie so I don’t care.
I can’t even image getting 5GB downloaded in 40 minutes. That’s so fast
Looking into building my own little box of *arrs but have nothing for it yet what’s your setup? (or I could just be not lazy, I guess?)
After seeing this many "arr"s here, I just letting y’all in the comments know that 1) you’re my peeps 2) you’re feckin beautiful 3) I stay seeding for you <3
I’m back on the high seas, but I’m worried about my ability to discover new shit or when stuff comes back. I’ve relied on my Apple TV to let me know when new seasons start for so long that I no longer have tools to keep track of shit. I literally forget the things I watch between seasons.
I use a notion database to track all the shows I’m watching. Mainly because I have ADHD but it might be useful
Also ADHD, but in the way that systems like that don’t work for me. I’m wholly incapable of keeping up with them and they sap me of all my energy.
This site used to be pretty good for tracking shows. No idea if it still is any good tho. https://www.pogdesign.co.uk/cat/
Look up guides for radarr and sonarr and associated rr’s. They can do the heavy lifting for you.
Yep. They just pull things you monitor as they show up in your feeds (in my case Usenet newsgroup indexes)
For example. My wife like Billions, new episode/season came out and it jus popped up in my plex server the other day
Just use seriesguide, simple solution.
The era of cheap streaming is over, now begins the era of free streaming
🏴☠️🏴☠️🏴☠️
Bettle Juicing at its finest
Long live 1337x and Stremio.
Didn’t 1337x just get caught injecting bit coin mining software into their stuff?
You’re gonna get a bitcoin mining infection from a video file? lmao
All you need is some popcorn and some time
I mean this is basically inevitable. We know that capitalism doesn't actually seek the lowest price as its evangelists usually preach, but the highest - and so there is no way that streaming will not balloon over time to a price comparable to the cable TV plans of the past.
🏴☠️ yo ho yo ho a pirate’s life for me 🏴☠️
I stepped away from having any home infrastructure other than a proper firewall about a decade ago when streaming was so affordable and content was so bountiful on the few streaming platforms that existed. Now I finds myself considering diving straight back into setting up a NAS and hosting locally at home again. Is Plex still a decent choice to stream from your collection while traveling?
I suggest also setting up Radarr and Sonarr for automatic downloads.
Plex is still a good choice. I find that Jellyfin has better performance, recognizes and organized my media better, but it’s more complicated to set up remote access on jellyfin.
I would prefer to move to Jellyfin long-term but I need to get access to port forwarding from my landlord first.
Tailscale is going to be much easier to setup. No permission from your landlord needed.
note that you can run your own headscale server rather than paying tailscale for the privilege.
Thanks for the recommendation, I had not heard of that but it looks like a common solution so I may try that later! Here is a helpful looking guide I found in case anyone else is curious too. https://www.ethanmad.com/post/jellyfin_remote_access/
you could set it up on a non standard port like 99. you have to manually add “:99” at the end of your domain name, but it works.
This is where I’m at.
In fact, consumers who bundle just a few streamers together in 2023 will find that the final cost is effectively the same as basic cable. Couple that reality with the introduction of ads into streaming and the end product eerily resembles on-demand cable.
Capitalism seeks the highest profit, but what that means depends on the customers.
With the Netflix password sharing crackdown risky bet, customers answered loud and clear: they are more than willing to pay more money to access the same content instead of standing their ground on the decision.
When there is actual competition and customers are demanding of what the offering should be, that’s when we see prices go down.
There are an increasing number of markets where monopolies and deals between companies leave people without any choice to make at all, but I don’t think the market of streaming services is an example of this.
