LeninWeave [any]

I think they’re German, conflating antisemitism with anti-zionism is their favorite excuse for why this genocide will finally be the good one.

This meme remains evergreen, sadly.

One of them was extremely offended in another thread when I replied to them with “I was just following orders”.

Allegations of genocide

International recognition

As I said, by treating this as equivalent to the near universally recognized genocide in Gaza, you are engaging in a form of genocide denial. Funny, the map of (the very few) countries that recognize this has a large overlap with the map of countries that do the same form of denial with the Holocaust.

declare the perpetrators evil (which they are)

Correct.

and the victims the good guys (hamas are not)

You’re wrong, Hamas are in fact “the good guys” in this conflict. The resistance to the genocidal settler state are good even if they don’t measure up to whatever arbitrary standard of perfection you have in mind.

One side’s atrocities don’t justify the other side’s. Excusing your own group’s actions because they’re the good guys is far right thinking.

Bullshit framing designed to try to equate between the invading settler state (with overwhelming firepower) and the (often barely adult) native resistance just trying to survive and protect their homes.

In reality there’s more factors to this than just the genocide, and both hamas and israel are the bad guys in their own way. One is just worse than the other, but that doesn’t make the other good.

“Hemming and hawing over genocide is disgusting.”

• @seeking_perhaps@mander.xyz

Only difference is that your side is “right”

lmao, it seems you’re the perfect centrist. By this standard, “the Holocaust happened” and “white genocide in South Africa happened” are both equally valid statements. Do you see how ridiculous it is to just group statements by superficial similarity and treat them as equivalent regardless of the substance of the claims or the evidence?

Yes, opposing the main resistance to zionism makes you a zionist. Glad we all understand each other.

I legitimately need to check users post histories to understand which extreme they are on

If you can’t tell the difference between “media owned by the wealthy reproduces their ideology” and Q-Anon, that might be a problem with you and not others.

They fully support the Russian invasion and genocide of Ukraine though, hence the hypocrisy.

Did you know that inventing “genocides” based on perceived vibes and presenting them as equivalent to extremely real, well-documented, and universally agreed upon actual genocides is a form of genocide denial? Liberal such as yourself have been doing the work of fascists like this for a long time, this type of Holocaust denial is called “double genocide theory”.

Seriously, imagine typing “there is often only ‘anti genocide and pro genocide’ in online discussions” and thinking “yes, I will post this and look like a very good and moral person”. Yes, if you’re not against genocide you’re for genocide. Yes, if you think supporting the resistance to genocide is antisemitic, you are a genocidal zionist. This type of “nuanced” “anti-zionism” (liberal zionism) is also widespread on feddit.org.

They are implying that ml instances are no less egregious about the types of bad content they allow, even if the content itself is different

They are wrong.

dbzer0

marxist island

lmao

I thought this was a joke when I read the first sentence, then I realized you were serious. LMAO

The German left, at least the loud one, is public ally dividing between this topic. On demonstration you see a lot of people openly supporting Hamas, wearing the red triangle etc. For me it is only natural to fight this form of anti semitism. That makes you a “Zionist” on Lemmy, as there is often only “anti genocide and pro genocide” in online discussions. But the world is very complex and there is a large continuum between Islamic and Jewish ethno state philosophy.

This is all nonsense and you are indeed a zionist. Thank you for making it clear to everyone.

People are going to assume this is a joke, lmao.

*Specifically, I want to try different variations of implementation, to find the best ‘recipe’ for an improved democratic socialism. Islands are good for A/B/C testing, I wager.

Dr. Mengele joins the DSA.

China’s “”“”“genocide”“”“” lmao. It will be interesting if he replies to you, but based on what he has said so far I’m not expecting much of a useful or well-informed answer.

By insisting that the red triangle in his display name is related to his fictional lore and not Hamas, I think he’s trying to say that he opposes Hamas as a “genocidal regiem”. Which is why he thinks you’re “insisting” that he “likes genocide” when you continue to state that you think he supports Hamas.

“Fuck all genocidal regiems. Does that need to be said explicitly?” as a reply to “Wait, you don’t support Hamas?” definitely sounded like calling Hamas genocidal, as did doubling down by putting “all” in bold after you tried to get him to agree Hamas was cool. China only came up later in the thread, as far as I can tell.

But if he doesn’t think that, he can easily clarify.

Also, I guess genocide also includes people resisting genocide, apparently.

I feel like the volume of nonsense that user spewed in this thread really overshadowed the fact that he called the Palestinian resistance genocidal lmao.

Hamas is genocidal

me when I make shit up