Yeah… smells like bigotry. Here’s Reuters on the subject: https://www.reuters.com/world/germany-bans-muslim-interaktiv-association-searches-properties-2025-11-05/. Notably,

In a position paper shared on the YouTube channel of the face of Muslim Interaktiv, Raheem Boateng, the group affirmed its support for the German constitution but rejected any state interference in its understanding of Islam. “We recognise the validity of the Basic Law (constitution) as the normative order of the Federal Republic. It is precisely this regulatory framework that guarantees us, as Muslims, the right to exist in Germany,” according to the position paper.

Now I have literally no idea what these guys do (though calling for a caliphate in Germany is weird as fuck), but DW is pushing a narrative here.

“We will respond with the full force of the law to anyone who aggressively calls for a caliphate on our streets, incites hatred against the state of Israel and Jews in an intolerable manner, and despises the rights of women and minorities,”

Holding demonstrations is aggressive now? Also he just had to suck Israel’s dick here. Also obligatory ban AfD first.

I’m almost 100% sure, that if Harris had won, my neighbors wouldn’t be rounded up and disappeared.

Sure, but she didn’t, which is my point. What you’re describing isn’t a model for success. I’m pretty sure I said this in my reply, but to repeat: If you don’t scratch others’ backs, they won’t scratch yours. It’s really that simple. There are plenty of people to whom genocide in Palestine is as or more important than everything you just listed; you can either cooperate with them or do your own thing, and I’m sure you can tell which one the oligarchy wants you to do. Hint: Apes together strong. To again repeat myself, we’ve literally just seen this happen in the general; Harris’s pro-Israel agenda alienated enough people that she lost the election, and anyone doing the same thing as Harris will suffer the same result. What you’re advocating for is trying to fit a round peg into a square hole; you can talk at length about how awesome it’d be if the round peg fit into the hole (let’s ignore for a second that the hole is genocide), but it simply won’t.

Probably not, but full on genocide at the scale we are currently seeing?

The full scale genocide has been going on since day one. It’s progressed more because more time has passed, not because there has been any fundamental change in American policy toward Israel. The implication that Israel’s 2025 rampage is any different from its 2024 rampage is blatant Democrat propaganda. The killing, the starvation, the rape, all of it has been going on since October 8th 2023.

If people aren’t ready for a full swing-around to progressive politics

Umm… they absolutely are. Almost every progressive policy position you can think of is supported by the majority of Americans. You’ll piss off reactionaries, but you’ll always piss off reactionaries; that’s why they’re reactionaries.

Sudden change can lead to backlash by people who hate change, but slow change can dig far deeper hooks with less resistance.

Realistically this only works one way. You can trick your average person into being the frog in the boiling pot, but the rich and powerful (aka the people you’re actually pissing off with progressive politics)? Absolutely not. They’re on to that stuff, that’s why progress always comes (or at least starts) with large movements and flashy acts of resistance; slow progress will simply fizzle into nothing or be rolled back faster than yuu can push for it. Also “you can have human rights but you have to Wait™” is always going to piss off people, who will flock to whoever promises (truthfully or not) to get them what they want now. People can tolerate incompetent leaders, but not ineffectual leaders.

I will pick a less perfect candidate that will help protect those around me.

And uh… are those around you protected now, or are they at the mercy of the Gestapo like everyone else in America? See my point now? There’s nothing such as protecting people in order; either everyone is protected or no one is. For example since we’re talking about Palestine, according to post-election polling Gaza playing a major role in costing Harris the election. You’re simply not special enough to be protected before everyone else; either you scratch others’ backs so they scratch yours or both you and others end up with itchy backs in a concentration camp. Genocidal warmongers are not going to protect you.

Would you vote for someone who calls out the genocide of the Palestinian people but would also destroy social services where you live that you might rely on?

First, I don’t want someone who calls out the genocide; I want someone who does something about it. Second, did you miss the part where I said injustice everywhere needs to be opposed? If such a person existed, I’d pressure them to change their position (before voting for them).

Explanation please?

We’ve seen the power of creeping change,

Uh… when, exactly? The past half century of American politics has been an unmitigated disaster on all fronts other than maybe LGBT rights.

I also care about feeding our own people, having due process for everyone here, women’s rights, lgbt rights, immigration rights, Healthcare, government spending, employee rights, free speech rights, climate change etc etc etc

And you’ll never get these things by throwing Palestinians under the bus; that’s how solidarity works. Remember Abandon Harris? I mean, hello, Obama and Biden both deported millions of people throughout their terms, and Democrats are certainly not going to give you healthcare or do shit about climate change. If they don’t care about brown kids on the other side of the world, they don’t care about you. The people who do care about you tend to also care about brown kids on the other side of the world, so it’s either take on injustice at home and abroad or surrender to injustice both at home and abroad.

Frankly voting at this point is more about getting committed progressives into positions of power where they can resist MAGA fascism. There’s no way the fascists will actually let you vote them out.

Pretending Cheney had anything useful to say was rehabilitating him. It’s like quoting Hitler on animal rights.

The fact you never see these stories about progressives is all the explanation you’ll ever need for why America is doomed.

Literally yes.

Good fucking riddance.

I hope it can be done without more violence.

I hope the sky will rain pizza and world peace, but realistically nah.

Sigh please change, Lemmy. BTW if you’re looking for something to stretch, rubber bands are a better option than word definitions.

it’s indistinguishable from a lawless oligarchy.

It’s definitely an oligarchy, but “lawless” hasn’t been my impression of China, at least not any more than any capitalist country.

Those teach how things are supposed to work, not what to do when things don’t work as they should. I’m willing to wager no government willingly teaches people how to coerce it into working for them, but at least America definitely doesn’t.

Maybe it was, maybe it wasn’t, that’s not my point. My point is that the statement “religious fucks have held us back for millennia” is nonsensical because before the last three hundred years or so everyone was a “religious fuck.”

ACAB strikes again.

Do you… do you think religious people don’t function in their daily lives?

Generally places with weak economies and robust public higher education tend to have large numbers of educated professionals because it’s a good way to GTFO.