

Will there be an episode by episode discussion thread?
Will there be an episode by episode discussion thread?
I think you’re thinking about the 1979 novel Enemy Mine, and 1985 movie. Which itself was building off any number of shipwreck and wartime survival tales.
Enemy Mine has been repeatedly adapted to Trek shows from TNG’s early episode where Geordi and a Romulan survive together.
Using this trope again with a ‘curious demigods running experiments’ twist is novel enough. In fact, it’s harder to believe that Arena was the first time the Metrons put humanity and Gorn into one-on-one engagement.
As for the Martian, book or movie, they’re both pretty weak, derivative, middle school stuff. They’re overhyped and couldn’t hold the attention of the hard scientists in our household. If the middle school (sanitized) version of the book hadn’t been so hyped for our kids, we wouldn’t have made the effort to slog through it before they read it.
Glad that you’re getting to read Destiny.
The thing is that, being an avid TrekLit reader, I’d previously just thought your alias was a deep cut rather than your own creation. Either is very cool.
It seems the Metron scene was necessary for the very vocal contingent of fans who have relentlessly expressed their outrage about the Gorn storyline not fitting in their headcanon about Arena.
“People know” comments, such as the one in this article are increasingly annoying. Mainly, because they are simply wrong.
No, we don’t know that Ortegas and La’an aren’t on the ship in the first year of Kirk’s command.
Sulu was a xenobiologist at the beginning of TOS, and Kirk had already been captain for some time. There was a bit of a rotation of pilots in the initial episodes.
TOS didn’t even have a regular security officer.
Building on that VS, DNA was barely discovered by Watson and Crick when TOS fan, so we should be able to work the implications of the growing body of knowledge of genetics into what we have done before.
We don’t hold Star Trek back from incorporating advances in real life scientific and technological knowledge.
For example, growing understanding in nanotechnology informed many elements of 1990s Trek. We didn’t say that nanotechnology shouldn’t be referenced just because it wasn’t referenced in TOS.
In fact, Roddenberry insisted that Star Trek always be a possible future for the viewers and insisted on changes and corrections to address changes in knowledge.
In the case of what we saw in this episode, knowledge of epigenetics, an entire domain of understanding that has developed in this century, informed the situation.
Epigenetics can be defined as “The study of the processes involved in the genetic development of an organism, especially the activation and deactivation of genes.”
We were told by Una that, because the Karkovian serum was derived from Spock’s DNA it reflected Spock’s experience. This means certain Vulcan genetic traits were already ‘switched on’ by environmental factors, that could include experiences like meditation, that would lead to ‘switching on’ the genes that enable functioning of the specific Vulcan brain structures noted in Voyager.
This headline is a quote out of context that is being used to imply an admission.
I don’t mind the inference that the movie wasn’t what Yeoh had hoped it might be, but the headline is a misrepresentation of what she said.
What Yeoh actually said is:
Every time I finish a movie or something, I always think, ‘I could have done better,’ so it’s nothing new. That’s how you always have to think to improve yourself and to hopefully be better the next time.
My partner and I seem to be among the relatively few longtime fans who found the S31 film a blast. I still have to wonder though what we might have got if Kim and Lippoldt had been able to run the show that they originally conceived before Paramount added a male non-Asian action flick show runner ‘for experience’. The episode they wrote for Georgiou in S3 of Discovery was excellent and they have been successful writing on Sweet Tooth for seasons 2&3 since they moved on from Trek…
It’s a biblical metaphor that’s made it into English usage.
But given how much the Borg love the Omega particle in Voyager, it’s fitting.
Yes. The Destiny trilogy is described as the Alpha to Omega story of the Borg.
La’an didn’t become Romulan.
That was just the inference that she and Pike made as they both had awareness that Romulans existed.
In fact, it was a misdirection and further evidence that Vulcans can be blind in their prejudices.
The two of them locked onto the explanation that they knew and never considered that La’an’s heritage of altered DNA might lead to manipulative and territorially conquering behaviour like her ancestor Khan.
It was turning off the impact of the balancing unaltered human DNA and augmenting her brain function that let the Khan-like behaviour dominate.
I thought it was a fairly deft look at the risks of emphasizing different elements of brain function through intervention.
There were references to whales before that in beta-canon diagrams.
The idea that they are a response to Star Trek IV is also beta canon or even widespread head canon.
I see that the writers are down in the fine print of the announcement.
Myers just has story credit.
It’s interesting because Mack was originally a NY Film School grad and has two writing credits for DS9. He was picked up from that by Pocketbooks to write Treklit. So, writing a radio play is moving him back towards where he started.
There’s real news in there!
David Mack and Kirsten Beyer have cocredit for the script of the Star Trek: Khan audio podcast.
This just increased my expectations that this will be a high quality script.
I do recall that Enterprise was hyped as a response to the demands from (mostly male) fans who wanted a ‘return to exploration’, less ‘magic technology’ and implicitly ‘men doing stuff.’
The 1990s BBS hate of the women in leadership roles in the early seasons of Voyager was savage.
Again, that’s an issue regarding screenwriting not tie-in fiction.
And on the screenwriting side, it’s an issue Paramount has already taken on with Lower Decks, Picard, and Prodigy’s very numerous references to classic shows and characters. All those Easter eggs were included.
Any characters created by tie-in writers are Paramount’s IP under the standard tie-in writer contract. No credit need be given even.
This has already been established as Prodigy and Lower Decks have brought TrekLit elements into canon.
Even Star Trek Online content is Paramount IP. The vfx team were able to directly convert renders of STO ships for Picard.
I bought it in hardcover and was deeply disappointed.
See my comments above.
There has been no justification for why the IP holders at Paramount insisted that the most crew of the Voyager be miserable once they returned to Earth, but it’s an acknowledged fact at this point.
I found the Voyager books when they return to the Alpha Quadrant very frustrating and disappointing. I DNFd the second one.
It seems like the tie-in auto Christie Golden was required (by the IP holder) to break the Voyager crew up and make them experience a great deal of unhappiness.
In the main series of post Voyager 24th century relaunch timeline novels post Nemesis, longstanding author Peter David was obliged to kill Katherine Janeway off in one of the crossover events!
That said, I did really enjoy Kirsten Beyer’s Full Circle Voyager novels. Beyer was eventually given permission to get the Voyager crew back together for a new exploratory mission to the Delta Quadrant with a group of slipstream ships.
Vanguard is darker even than DS9, so not everyone’s taste.
What it does have is not only Starfleet on-station but also 4 ships that are based there from a scout explorer to a Constitution class. It’s a lot of characters. Plus Tholians and Klingons. The mystery takes a bit to come together but it’s excellent.
The Enterprise and her crew show up occasionally but aren’t the primary characters. There is one Vanguard novel recently add that is Enterprise-focused and is one of the best books since Destiny.
Directors, actors and art directors seem to be very happy to tread the ground of adaptations.
What we really have is some writers that want to tell their own Star Trek stories but aren’t doing a good job of serialization and studio executives who think that rehashing existing stories and characters will buy success.
And yes we have egos like Patrick Stewart’s holding his character hostage to his own reinterpretation of his character to be a reflection of himself.
But as we have seen with the character of Jim Kirk, there can be other actors to carry on the legacy.
My headcanon is that this is an in-universe show that the kids on the Enterprise D enjoyed.
Boimler grew up with it and has ALL the nostalgic merch. Mariner also has the merch hidden in the ceiling panels but would never admit to it.