I understood. My point was that there is no similar link related to the autocratic regime of Bolsonaro. Autocrats can often be defeated electorally even once they gain power. I think the situation in the US is closer to Balsonaro in Brazil than Hitler in Germany.

Yeah, Germany is a model worth considering, but so is Brazil. Autocrats aren’t consistently capable of cementing their rule. Do what works for you, but I intend to stay and fight.

Until the next election is cancelled, I will be working under the assumption that it will happen. Fuck that defeatist crap.

When it comes to this issue, you can’t really say that Trump is that much worse. Either way Gaza and the West Bank were heading to oblivion. Rhetoric aside, there is no evidence that Harris would have ever stood up to Israel in any meaningful way.

There is always a bunch of relevant factors in the outcome of a national election. It’s the job of the candidate to overcome those hurdles. If they don’t, then they were the wrong candidate. It’s not about blame, it’s about how we do better next time.

I’d much prefer that Harris won, but it does warm my heart a bit that the Democratic establishment got fucked for their manipulation of the 2020 primary and subsequent forcing of a Harris run. If we are talking blame, then that’s where it belongs. Fuck the Clintons, Obama, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the DNC corporate lineup.

Then the next time a MAGA-esque Republican came along, which would probably be in 2028 or 32 they’d feel free to completely take the gloves off.

And you think letting treason pass with no consequences isn’t also sending a message?

The Republicans have no shame and aren’t waiting for the Democrats to strike first. Take away one rationalization and they will just manufacture another.

It’s happened before. You have to go all the way back to FDR, but it happened.

You can’t judge primary races like that. The final spread is irrelevant because of how the votes are spread out. The media calls it long before half the country has even voted, then the remaining votes always avalanche to the presumed winner.

Not sure why this applies to what I said, but my few Republican friends and family are uncomfortably aware of what I think about their politics.

Biden undermined democracy by preventing a proper primary from taking place. The voters never got to nominate a candidate, and the establishment thrust a candidate on them that had already been rejected in a previous primary. That’s the establishment’s fault, and Biden if the face of the Democratic establishment.

Dems are clearly better on economic issues as well. Not nearly good enough, but better. The problem is that they will only go so far, and they won’t talk about it, out of fear of angering their wealthy patrons.

Your right. The anti-establishment mood in this country and abroad has been building for decades. Americans have never voted based on foreign policy unless that foreign policy is directly impacting them.

Kamala had a billion dollars. Progressives have a deep ecosystem of independent media that establishment Democrats undermine at every opportunity. Democrats were hand in hand with Republicans in pushing social media “reforms” that today promote media like FOX News as trustworthy over progressive media sources. The Democrats create their own weakness.

Awareness of what? As badly informed as most people are, I’m still certain that most Americans know Trump won.

I’m all for protests, and lord knows we will be needing them, but protests should have some kind of coherent demands. The left wastes a ton of energy spinning it’s wheels.

It’s sheer lunacy in today’s world, but it also happens to be a feature for the qon/Republican agenda.

Redundant statements are redundant.

Best I could do without a definition for the stupid use of “leftist extremists” with no definition. My point is, there is zero evidence to blame this election on leftists of any stripe.

You have data to back that up I assume?

Biden had polling in his hands that said Trump would get 400 electoral votes against him on the day he decided to run for a second term. Then he held on just long enough to make certain we would have no primary and be stuck with a candidate who couldn’t shake the stink of his presidency.

Harris lost the popular vote by over 4-million votes. There aren’t that many “leftist extremists” in the whole damn country, and only a small subset of those wouldn’t have voted for Harris.

The vast bulk of those who stayed home were left leaning apolitical normies. Most of the country fits in that group.

Maybe they both die and we get Mike Johnson!

The sad part is that that also describes what the Democrats did to get us into this mess.

Does it though? Trump cares about his crowd sizes. He doesn’t give a fuck that people think he abuses women. He wears that shit like a badge of honor. He proclaims his corruption loudly and his fans think it makes him shrewd. I honestly can’t imagine what Putin has on him that would matter. Maybe a picture of his tiny… hands, but he’d just claim it was faked.