all states are authoritarian
Not in the same ways. You support dictatorships where workers have no power, nor the means to eventually hold power later down the line. I support neither capitalist regimes nor dictatorships pretending to be socialist.
To get rid of the state, all property needs to be collectivized, which both gets rid of class and the state itself.
Yes.
There’s no “promising to abolish” anything, the state gradually withers away with respect to class withering away as property is sublimated and collectivized.
No marxist can describe how this will happen. The dictators in charge do not have incentives to give away their power, nor are there other mechanisms in place that can bring about socialism. It’s literally just propaganda. Inequality in china is not withering away, there’s just a growing middle class the same way we had a growing middle class in other places where industrialization happened. The state owning and running things does not equate to socialism. It could, if there was democracy of some kind rather than oligarchy supplemented with very minor political participation from a fraction of the population.
I am a Marxist, yes. I became one after engaging with history, theory, logic, and practice. The fact that poor logic and false history doesn’t sway me doesn’t diminish my points. I haven’t seen any ethical arguments being brought up here.
Your auth states commit all the evils of capitalist empires and yet you still defend them. That’s not exactly ethical. Authoritarianism can’t be ethical in practice because of the incentives the people in power have to keep their power, and the things they do to keep it. “Communist” states are far more authoritarian than most liberal democracies, which is why I call them authoritarian. I call you authoritarian because you defend them and wish to implement similar oligarchies/dictatorships elsewhere. This is not to say I like liberalism, just by comparison your system is in many ways worse. Unions are way more suppressed, people are less active politically, and there are no big benefits to make up for it. Genocide is still happening, billionaires are still being produced, freedom of speech is still suppressed, etc. Like yeah we can sit here and compare metrics and see both capitalist and marxist states are doing good and bad in all sorts of different ways. Both systems work to a point. I don’t care. I want actual democracy. I want actual freedom. I want actual socialism, or at least a system which can produce socialism unlike your auth vanguard states.
I will be blocking you after this.
Edit: To me the big mystery is why defend these states? Why aim for vanguard states? Can’t we aim for something better rather than something that has “succeeded”? Why do we have to choose between liberalism and marxism when we can instead try to work towards actual socialism?
I think many of us just stay away from locker rooms and public bathrooms as much as possible because we want to avoid being stared at or getting into uncomfortable situations with others making a scene. I’m no athlete, but I try to not go to public bathrooms and I plan my life accordingly. I’ve gone a few times and it has been problem free each time, but people do look as they go by because I don’t pass.
How safe we feel going into a locker room is gonna depend on who we go with, where we go and how tolerated we are in that area, how confident we are, and to what degree we pass.
If someone I know invites me anywhere which requires going into a locker room I’m likely gonna tell them no. Maybe I’m overly anxious and it would go just fine, but I’m not interested in rolling the dice with how people are gonna react.