A California company is advertising ‘tactical response’ Tesla Cybertruck upgrades for police cruisers, including shotgun racks and sirens.
That’s fine, as long as they put the sirens on the inside and the shotgun racks on the outside.
Of-fucking-course they are.
Shoulda seen this coming…
I am just sitting here looking at all you people upset about government waste and thinking about the crap I see every day working for a company that is primarily a government contractor. The river of dirty money.
Just this week alone, and this is Thursday, I told a state employee PE that his spec calls for a part no longer manufactured and if he doesn’t update his spec he is going to get whatever I find on eBay and he said he doesn’t care. Tens of millions of dollars project and this guy is having me put in used parts on a new system.
As a PE, fuck that guy, that’s fucked up.
Maybe but it isn’t uncommon. This can’t be news for you. You know the game.
Government puts out the bid. Some shitheads like Jacobs or Parsons grab it up. They recycle some decade old spec. Subcontract it out to 3 companies who subcontract it out to 8 companies and so on until 90 different companies are involved with ten guys doing the actual work.
And now everyone is trying to clone a system from the early 80s. Because no one wants to do engineering, meetings are far easier. The excuse will always be that prudence is a virtue, which might be true but it isn’t the sole virtue.
Private industry now, which has its own problems. I previously worked in water/sewage, so even a recycled design works. The focus was quality for the public, we just had 6 guys doing a 2 man job. I secretly think there are more people than jobs at this point.
Private industry in a different field, it’s all about speed, quality be damned. Luckily I’ve gotten the chance to show quality leads to less time wasted overall.
Still a love of meetings and shit though, private or public. Waste of life time.
The focus was quality for the public,
If I had a nickle for every time someone with a degree in civil engineering told me about electrical stuff or software stuff. Guys think that if it costs more it must be better or even worse that if it is was the norm in their 20s it must be best.
Whatever it’s Friday and I am sick of caring about you people not dying from choleria because some PE want to run their little con.
Lol I’m a mechanical engineer with a lot of experience in software, so maybe that alters my protective a little.
It’s a beautiful Friday, enjoy.
I have a civil engineer, full PE, client right now who is insisting I build a control system out of discreet relays. This is a government contract. Cause fuck the taxpayer
said he doesn’t care
said
Please tell me that this was in writing and not actually verbal. And if it was, CC that to everyone now who’s going to blame you later when it all goes horribly wrong.
We all know, everyone knows. You think this is atypical? And yeah I sent my email and copied everyone I was supposed to. Nothing happens. I wrote up a nice one pointing out that these parts are no longer manufactured and as a result I will have to buy used and long run this is hurting the operation team. Even suggested a list of alternative parts. His response? “Rejected, follow spec”. No exaggeration here. So much for mutual respect. 3 word response to another engineer bringing up major project concerns.
I don’t drink tap water when I am in or around Toronto ON. There is a reason for that, I have seen how the sausage is made. Sent a system there I want to say 6 months back with a PLC from about 2002. Whole system was full of used parts, as I explained in my email.
Arizona, California, New York City, Toronto, parts of Florida, Sussex County New Jersey, Dubai, Oregon, and UAE off the top of my head. I am sure I am forgetting plenty. Places where I have sent brand new pieces of equipment with used parts inside it and I warned the guy running the project that this was going to happen if they didn’t update the spec and they didn’t care.
Pussy
Not sure that’s a great idea given that prisoners can simply escape using the gaps in the doors
Worry not. The automatic doors will crush all their fingers and toes first.
Has anyone tried sticking their d*ck in yet? One of these clowns is bound to, if not. I just don’t want to miss it.
The rear has no headroom, so that is going to suck even worse to be put in the back of if you are like 6ft.
They will probably give them to the officers that don’t do traffic enforcement because they would be terrible at anything other than presence. Literally every other model Tesla would be better at being a cop car.
EDF patrol car from red faction
So another tax payer handout to Musk?
Man, he is THE welfare Queen
OK I hate the guy and this “vehicle” too, but this is a weird take.
Like if they bought Fords or Hyundais or whatever II wouldn’t consider it a handout; not getting why this would be?
Well, basically all Elon does derives a ton of money from the government…
The cybertruck is objectively bad, I see no reason that car would be selected for police use which makes me think the “invisible” hand of the market (ahem, lobbying, bribing, etc) was involved
I see no reason that car would be selected
Then shouldn’t your objection be with whoever did the selecting?
I’ve seen too many times when the people doing the selecting do a good job just to be overridden by the paid-for bureaucrat
But I’m just spitballing here, I have no evidence other than then strong doubt these cars could perform any regular job (they seem to be a poorly planned novelty item)
look they’ll do fine as long as they have a fleet of ford pickups to pull them out of mud puddles.
Because they’re a notoriously bad design that is prone to failing on every front that Tesla claimed they were the ‘cutting edge’ on. They’re just BAD. The only way Tesla is going to sell out of their production line is by forcing someone to buy them, and it looks like it’s the US military.
I wouldn’t think the same thing for Ford F150s, but I DEFINITELY would if suddenly we started hearing about police suddenly buying Fisher Price cars after hearing story after story of how they break down and leave toddlers stranded.
I will laugh my ass off when this thing breaks down and catches on fire during their “tactical response” after someone throws a water bottle at it.
I hope they explode
I’m going to laugh my ass off when someone figures out how to track them all in real time, and shares it on a publicly accessible website.
The first casualty of those battery fires is probably going to be someone handcuffed and locked in the back seat.
While the cop is outside after hitting update on the app.
battery fires are not at all common in electric vehicles. this is propaganda
On this planet, we have a concept called ‘humor,’ which involves exaggeration and absurdity for the purpose of getting a laugh. I hope this comes to your own world someday.
repeat falsehoods often enough and people believe them, even if you originally mean them as a well-intentioned and obvious joke
Sorry… are people repeating the falsehood that Cybertrucks catch fire if you throw a water bottle at them?
no but they ARE repeating the falsehood about battery fires being likely or common: https://lemmy.world/comment/10496586
(which is something your joke implied)
Or I implied that the Cybertruck is a badly-constructed piece of shit.
you may have INTENDED to imply only that, but you did imply both unfortunately. I agree with you on the cyber truck part, but I deal with a lot of slightly more rural folks and the big fear RN with electric vehicles is somehow battery fires. which is crazy since they don’t happen anywhere near as often as gas vehicles. so I’m just trying to say we should be careful to avoid that particular cliche (the battery fire part) since it misleads people
“We have an inflated budget and we need to spend every penny of it, even if it’s on dumb bullshit.”
You don’t use it, you lose it!
At least they are more fuel efficient than the military MRAPs and APCs they’ve been getting.
/s
Sweet! Outrunning the cops will be super easy if they start using these pieces of shit!
Particularly given that the design quality houses a whole slew of critically bad design choices.
Like shock absorber brackets and axel mounts that can’t handle simple offroad loads.
I am seriously looking forward to videos of some poor sucker trying to pull a PIT maneuver
In murica… Cops pit themselves.
What?
I’m imagining the cybercop bouncing off the car they meant to pit and flipping/rolling until the cop is skidding on nothing more than a car seat and holding a steering wheel.
Yes, it’s cartoonish.
Cartoons are great and so is that mental image, thank you for that
I agree, and you’re welcome.
Bit of background on police cars. Mechanically, they’re not made to be especially fast, nor necessarily accelerate very quickly, nor handle particularly well. The police package modifications have more to do with endurance. A cop car isn’t going to do 180MPH, but it’s going to be able to do 110 for way longer than a regular production vehicle. A alot of that comes down to extra cooling: engine, transmission, power steering. Cop cars have steel wheels because they bend instead of shattering, and you can still drive on a bent wheel that holds air.
Does the Cybertruck scream “reliable and high endurance”?
Police vehicles also need to be generally multipurpose, to carry weapons, first aid, other gear, and detainees as necessary. This means they need to have enough room in the back seat for a partition, and accessible cargo space so that any particular thing can be quickly accessed. I can’t speak to the back seat of a Cybertruck, but that silly body line at the front of the bed makes a huge part of its cargo space useless. If you want to access stuff that’s up there, you’re going to have to climb in the back and crawl over everything, or unload a bunch of shit that’s in the way, like me looking for the fucking mayonaisse in my refrigerator after my wife has jammed it way too full of other shit. Maybe a Cybertruck could stand in for a State Police car that runs the interstates instead of a Dodge Charger. Maybe.
Ever noticed how lots of police departments label their cars in very low contrast lettering? That’s so they can blend into traffic without being instantly noticeable as a police car. I think it’s obvious what I’m pointing out here.
I also don’t think that a pure electric vehicle would ever be used for actual police work. Having to stick it on a charger for an hour, at least once a day, takes the vehicle and its driver out of service for much longer than just filling up a gas tank. Yeah, you might be able to coordinate the charging with “paperwork time,” but it’s still something worth considering.
tl;dr: The Cybertruck is the worst police vehicle any department could ever choose.
Ever noticed how lots of police departments label their cars in very low contrast lettering? That’s so they can blend into traffic without being instantly noticeable as a police car. I think it’s obvious what I’m pointing out here.
you mean that automatic siren built into the body paneling isn’t gonna help them blend in?
All spot on!
Story: Some idiot company is trying to sell these things.
Lemmy: LOL, cops are idiots!
Who says anyone is purchasing this?!
I’d be more worried if they switched to old white tacomas. switch to persistent car chases. Never speeding, just following along waiting for you to run out of fuel. Oh you going off road? That huge dent on the roof is when it rolled over back in '03. I got 2 jerry cans my partner can pour while still driving.
Do NOT buy these, there’s no US flag on it. /s
And - check this out:
This car is horribly ugly
I think it fits the dystopian world we live in perfectly.
