• PsychedSy@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      It’s not so much what the Boeing CEO called the issue so much as a technical term for when a non-conforming product gets sold at its planned inspection operation.

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    Interestingly enough, even if it would make sense that boeing is now fully focusing on improving quality, it also makes sense to me that airbus must be ensuring and pushing a lot of quality upgrades as well, it would be perfect marketing for them if no mistakes whatsoever happened on airbus’s planes

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      And if they didn’t develop the culture of sweeping safety issues under the rug at all levels, they won’t have much trouble keeping ahead because I’m sure that even at the height of Boeing’s safety ignoring, I bet most of the communication still looked like they took safety seriously. Just those in the know realized that they could make themselves look better by faking it and their management wouldn’t care. I’ve gotta assume that some number of them will think the current safety culture overhaul is really trying to send a message of “just be smarter about ignoring safety, don’t let it get to the point where doors fall off mid-flight and we need to kill some whistleblowers”.

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    I also haven’t bought one.

    This shows that there must be actual problems with their aircraft though because airlines are not going to care about public attitude, due to the company’s politics. But if they are genuinely unsafe vehicles or have the potential to be unsafe vehicles, then they’ll stay away.

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      If public attitude ever got significant enough that they couldn’t fill a certain model of plane they would definitely stop buying them, that said I’m not sure we’re at that point.

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        Every person I know who has flown in the last six months has inquired about the manufacturer of their plane before boarding

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          I think the nail in the coffin will be the amount someone is willing to pay to not ride on one of those planes. And we’re talking money and time.

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        Flight booking websites literally added these plane models so you could filter out specific planes to avoid those flights because of these stories.

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    This is the greed that was awesome for the fuckers profiting of cutting the costs of engineering…now we reap the benefits of losing a worldwide prominence in aviation because some scum from McDonald Douglass wanted to get rich…at American expense.

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    Even if they gave them away for free, no one would take them for commercial use. Not sure who would be surprised at this ‘news’

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      I mean, they totally would. Do you think the fine folks at American airlines have moral compasses that are orders of magnitude greater than boeing’s?

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          They have been. The problem is twofold; Airbuses are limited in the U.S., and airlines have increased the rates on those tickets because I guess a working airplane is now considered a premium.

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    Could it be a purposeful effort by foreign entities to discredit and dilute american corporate giants reputations by placing sympathetic people into positions that would bring that about?

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      why would boeing need help damaging its reputation? It seems to be doing a great job of that on its own.

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        So you dont think the people running things could be put there by any actions of a foreign nature? For instance a hiring manager, hr executive, or someone in a similar role?

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          I think its more if you look at what they did and the problems they’re having all came after a merger with McDonnel Douglas and seem to be a typical case of corporate “fire people for reporting bad numbers” aka “kill the messenger” along with lots of outsourcing. Which results in numbers go up but at the cost of QA/QC.

          This is all standard reaganomics and like nearly every other company that went down this road while selling real physical products they’re now reaping the fruits they’ve sown for over 20 years.

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      People downvote you, but that could well be true.

      Then still the right course of action would be very different from supporting and bailing out etc the contaminated organization.

      And then one can also think about other organizations possibly contaminated.

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        Same company that has the Starliner with leaks staying at the ISS. Not a good look.

        Marketing department is going to be working overtime.

        The brand new 737 Boeing Goeing. Cheaper than all others on the market with a 15 year warranty. Gaurenteed to keep you Goeing. For fucks sake, we’re Boeing.

        This is a whole new remodeled version of our Max that had various issues that concerned our buyers. Now, we’ve added an onboard AI that will detect which items to advertise to customers based off past sales and gender/sex/age/height/and weight. Up your sales numbers guaranteed to increase from the info we scrape off the Internet or buy from Google directly. Built in auto serve tray so the hosts don’t need to find the orders, they are auto placed on a exiting conveyor that feeds right onto the cart you roll up!

        These beauties are all thrown in for free when you invest in your future that’s Goeing places.

        *Doors may become from nowhere, wheels may fall off, leaks may occur, but your profits will skyrocket. Landings not guaranteed.

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    Don’t they make a shitload of weapons though? They could probably never make another commercial airliner again and still do just fine.

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    They might start sending assassins to threaten their buyers soon

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      Yeah, I’d love to know what airline that was so I can make sure I never give them my business.

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        According to boeing’s website the last 737 order was in February from “unidentified customer(s).” Hmmmmmmmm