I am an Indian and I have noticed that Indians are way too proud of their country for some reason and at the same time lack any civic sense towards it, they are extremely loud and extremely proud. We feel like the world revolves around India and our culture is superior to that of others. Also, a considerable chunk of the population has been sold the “India is a world-leader” myth and they think India is somehow leading the world in innovation, science and technology, human development etc.,

Now, I know for a fact that this is not true, when I try to gauge the perception of Indians abroad on Twitter, I get pretty negative results, but Twitter has nothing good to say about any group of people, so… I kinda wanted to know what you people though of India, don’t base it upon the etnic Indians who might be your friends and are decent people, but base it upon the news you read, the stories you hear from those Indians, etc.

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    Extremely dirty. Why does nobody care about all the shit and litter out there? What caused such ignorance to form?

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    • large
    • tap water can be dirty
    • great curry
    • massive population
    • caste system
    • makes many YouTube tutorials
    • has some beef with Pakistan
    • likes to bob their heads
    • arranged marriages
    • spices
    • really hot and humid
    • as other people have mentioned, can be a bit unruly at times
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    the “news” i “know” about india is little, some historical “facts” written mostly by uncivilized brutish invaders compacted to youtube videos by part or fulltime streamers. Some other “facts” which sound often bad i sometims mostly have from official media known to promote any “nice” propaganda - that is, depicting other countries worse than the own one so that people do not hunt their own gov with garden forks just to stop the crimes. Well i really “know” nothing about India.

    But beeing proud of culture usually is a good thing, but that is only if it is culture and as such does not(!) base on abuse or similar.

    Maybe what you experience could be a crowd effect that protects the people from seeing what they (group, society) do wrong while at the same time it protects the worst wrongdoers from punishment or at least from getting stopped. Such as it could be a self-sustaining downwards spiral taking more and more and everything down with it slowly increaaing pace. At least what you wrote sounded a slight bit chilling like that.

    It could be hormones and how culture tells you to act or not act on them, or a lack of culture about such, maybe a combination of culture to “support your group” while that support does not always protect integrity of the overall concept of what that culture was meant for. A group of people cheering to each other how good they are might not want to stop cheering for “minor reasons” because it just feels good. While doing wrong things they could “help” each other (which is supposedly a good thing but can do lot of harm too) with arguments that this wrongdoing would be ok or even "good’ in this specific moment because of <insert_bullshit_here>. alltogether spiralling downwards doing so more often every day. So all of them can go on wrongdoing while feeling well supported or even falsely feel superior in general.

    however a figure (real/not real?) well known in india once said something like “it is better to calm down and just do your thing than to overreact”. (this is the shortes version i’ve ever tried to compact it to but maybe you get the idea anyway).

    I know for a fact that this is not true,

    i don’t know the underlying things that make it a fact, plz share.

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    I am myself Indian

    I think most Indians don’t realise how large and diverse India is. Most Indians underestimate how foreign parts of thier own country are in terms of economy, culture, language, food etc.

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    I’m sure thoughts are influenced by the fact that the company I work for has a sizable presence there, but the very broad view I’ve developed is ‘outsourcing superpower’. It rarely seems that India is the owner or originator of things, but they end up doing a massive amount in supporting companies from the USA during what is our night hours. They also seem to have an exceptional dedication to their work despite from what I’ve seen the managers being kinda over-the-top with the demands on them.

    I used to work with a young woman who left one of the wealthy families there to get out of an arranged marriage who had all kinds of interesting tales on how things worked there. Talked a bit about their 'gold room’s where they stored all their savings and if they needed extra cash would just shave off a piece from a brick.

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    It’s one of the World’s Great Civilizations, rather than just a country like Ireland is, it’s got more historical importance and influence.

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      I don’t understand why people are downvoting you, you are right!

      I don’t like people taking credit for something that happened in the past (they had nothing to do with it) but you are right in stating that.

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      I’m not sure why you have negative connotations towards your own identity. As an Indian myself, I love Celtic culture, especially revivalism of European paganism and witch-craft as an alternative sub-culture. And well, Irish people are based cuz they were anti-imperialist back then towards European colonies, have some really fascinating history with Native Ameicans, and even today, with how most ally towards Palestine. Ireland is probably one of the few countries I see in a very positive light. Oh, and Irish Coffee looks like something I’d love to try.

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    The things that come to my mind are

    -The country has a set goal to improve in tech industry, aiming to rival big countries like China.

    -The people definetly know their spices. While they use it a bit too much at times, it certainly works well.

    -The country is overpopulated, leading to talented people having harder time to succeed.

    -If you’re watching an Indian man’s tutorial on any topic, you can assume it’ll work well.

    -It has a noticable split in religious beliefs.

    -fuck the remote scammers operating from Kolkata. The people in India also hate these people.

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      Can second the comment about tutorials. It’s amazing how your very very specific problem has a great tutorial, with the worst possible audio, that is perfectly solved by some random dude in his bedroom in India.

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      Can second the comment about tutorials. It’s amazing how your very very specific problem has a great tutorial, with the worst possible audio, that is perfectly solved by some random dude in his bedroom in India.

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      Kolkata and Gurgaon. We fucking hate them. They ruin our country’s reputation even though they are probably just 0.0001% of our country.

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    Culturally, not a fan, for many reasons others have mentioned - and the whole caste system thing tends to sour a lot of the otherwise positive aspects.

    That said, the food is EXCELLENT, and that must not be overlooked.

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    19 days ago

    Send bobs.

    But seriously I can’t help but think of the good foods. I’m curious if India does food diplomacy like Thailand does.

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    I hope that India doesn’t make the same mistakes my county (America) made, such as trying to be a major international player while ignoring the people in need at home. They’re already going that way, but there’s time to change course.

    Also, I’d like them to fix their issues with Pakistan. That border was drawn by the British specifically to cause problems, and falling into that trap is letting the previous colonizers win.

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    I’ll share my perspectives on Indian colleagues. Not Indians raised Americans (who are more Americanized), but Indians who are from India.

    Like others, I feel like this is a general sweeping comment that can be seen as racist and inaccurate. I agree. I try my best to keep it in check.

    Indian women come off as entitled. They are both strong because men in India have been rude/off-putting to them, but also demanding. I recall one Indian woman tell me how she used to get catcalls and even had some pretty rape-y language thrown her way and she shrugged it off, calling those men pathetic. But then in her own words, “Would have been treated like a queen” by those toxic men.

    Indian men come off incel-y. Not just the young ones, but the married ones too. My one “friend” made a pass at my 14-yo cousin. I now keep him at arms length. The married couple, the husband was a total creep to my wife. Then he defended himself saying that’s normal Indian men behavior. His wife was upset, so maybe it wasn’t? Either way, I didn’t appreciate it.

    I only know about a dozen Indian folks in my circle. And again, Indians born in America are completely different.

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    I view India as a rising power that has the potential to rival China and the USA. I think the culture is backwards in many ways and advanced in others. I don’t like your current administration, but I do think India overall has interesting politics. I mean, you guys have an active Maoist insurgency. Pretty wild for the 21st century.

    I tend to get along well with Indians I meet in the states. I appreciate India long history and cultural impact (Buddha came from India for example). There were democracies in India before Athens was a thing.

    All in all India’s a rising power with a lot of potential. Unfortunately I don’t think they will reach China-status anytime soon because they don’t exercise as much central control as China does.

    In some ways this is good, Cultural Revolution wasn’t exactly a great experience for a lot of people. But in other ways it means the Indian government doesn’t have the power to reshape India in a way where it can successfully rival the European powers.

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    I had my biases, due to the large number of tech support scammers from India… Until my mother got scammed by chiropractors, and my whole family (including me) got their teeth mutilated by a malpracticing dentist in the US trying to profit off unnecessary dental proceedures. Scammers are everywhere there’s corruption; they just take different forms.

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      Speaking of unnecessary dental procedures: veneers… hoo boy, so many people (especially celebrities) get them unnecessarily, and permanently fuck up their teeth as a result.

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    Since no one else mentioned it, The Baha’i Lotus Temple in New Delhi is on my bucket list to visit. Absolutely gorgeous architecture.

    An architect that was based in London when it was built said of the project, “such a building would be extremely difficult to build in London. In India it will prove impossible.” Not only did you guys build it, but there were 0 workplace fatalities in the process of building it.

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    BJP/RSS - right wing fundamentalist zealots have taken over India. It’s gross, it’s dangerous and frightening. It’s what we hope America will not become with Trump and Heritage types.