Here we go, the first Presidential debate between Biden and Trump begins at 9 PM Eastern/6 PM Pacific.

How to watch it:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/25/politics/how-to-watch-cnn-debate/index.html

"The CNN Presidential Debate will air live on CNN, CNN International and CNN en Español, and via streaming on Max for subscribers and without a cable login on CNN.com. CNN will make the debate available to simulcast on additional broadcast and cable news networks.

You can also follow CNN’s live debate coverage on CNN.com, which will include analysis and fact checking."

"According to parameters set by CNN in May, all participating debaters had to appear on a sufficient number of state ballots to reach the 270 electoral vote threshold to win the presidency and receive at least 15% in four separate national polls of registered or likely voters that meet CNN’s standards for reporting.

Polls that meet those standards are those sponsored by CNN, ABC News, CBS News, Fox News, Marquette University Law School, Monmouth University, NBC News, The New York Times/Siena College, NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist College, Quinnipiac University, The Wall Street Journal and The Washington Post."

Edit And that’s it! Thanks for watching everyone!

tl;dw:

Consensus is Trump didn’t so much as beat Biden as Biden beat himself.

The real loser is CNN who failed to fact check anyone, and there were obvious fact checks on both sides.

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    7 days ago

    Oh. My. God.

    It’s literally two old-as-fuck fucks arguing about their golf swings. This is literally how the debate is coming to a close. I just… I don’t even know what to say.

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    7 days ago

    Oh, we’re leading into trump word salad. He’s just spooling off stream of consciousness of trump great + Biden bad and he just strings together whatever thoughts pop into his head. That’s all he’s got.

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    All the post-debate commentary basically says everyone they’re hearing from in the party and undecided voters were like… yeah, we are fucked.

    They have even made the point that he’s not technically the nominee until the convention twice so far. I.e., we need a new candidate.

    And it CAN’T BE KAMALA.

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    I guess…

    Biden fucked up. But I don’t think this really changes anything.

    Nobody is voting for Biden because we like him. We are voting for him because we give a shit about human rights and democracy. And democrats generally are good at actually listening to what is being said because… we want things.

    republicans hate biden and are just happy they heard that brown people are killing and raping everyone. Nothing changed there

    What Biden needed to do was win over the dumbass moderate/“undecided” voters. Which… is not talking points or policy. It is strongman bullshit. And that… is going to almost be entirely up to The Internet. Do we focus on Biden stuttering and having aphasia that he has had for decades? Or do we focus on trump blatantly lying and still talking about asking Nancy Pelosi to lead an insurrection for him?

    John Oliver and the rest of the late night hosts are going to be working overtime to remind the country that having a deranged fascist in charge is bad. The Hasans of the world are going to keep talking about “Genocide Joe” because they are useful idiots, at best. But… I don’t know beyond that.’


    That said, I do think about the questionably accurate story that nixon (ugh) won his debate against kennedy (lesser ugh) among radio versus television listeners.

    Biden mostly won in terms of text. He lost in terms of audio. But… people live on twitter and social media. How many people are going to be watching clips versus reading excerpts and tweets?

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    7 days ago

    Biden has to bring up Trump killing the border bill for political reasons. That should have been a top 3 talking point.

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    7 days ago

    Good first answer from Biden. Trump starting off with lies about the economy.

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    MSNBC ran live footage of the Bidens at the post-debate watch party… WHY THE FUCK DID HE NOT SOUND LIKE THAT DURING THE DEBATE?

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    7 days ago

    Dammit joe. Say “you’ve decimated the middle class, and that’s demonstrated by the fact that you can’t even address the question of how you’ll help people struggling to pay for childcare even when you were given two chances.”

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      “he is lying. He hurt the middle class. All of them want to vote for me”

      There is no win here. Anyone with a brain knows this is a shit show. The rest just want a strong man fascist.

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    This abortion response started good… and then he just lost it. My god he’s so fucking old.

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    Biden got fucking body slammed in this debate. It doesn’t matter that Trump is nonsensical. No one expected him to make sense. Biden just looked weak, confused, and mumbled his way through most of the debate.

    I can’t see how this possibly convinced anyone to vote for Biden. But I can definitely see how it probably demoralized democratic voters. This is just so awkward to watch.

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    If Biden is going to be replaced it has to be a huge name like AOC or Bernie. It’s too late to campaign anyone newer