• Admiral Patrick@dubvee.org
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    Q: Will you accept the results of the election, regardless of who wins?

    Trump: “…and all they want to talk about is a relatively small number of people who went to the capitol”

    A 'relatively small number of people who went to the capitol' a.k.a the January 6 Insurrection

    So far, he’s twice refused to answer the question.

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    I could only make it like five minutes, but this is a great summary by the AP:

    In first half hour of debate, a raspy Biden has delivered rambling answers that sometimes trail off as he defends his policies and record.

    Trump has countered with falsehoods on issues including the economy, abortion and NATO members’ defense spending.

    The two have also exchanged deeply personal attacks.

    https://apnews.com/live/presidential-debate-2024-updates

    Edit:

    Biden was talking about “saving Israel” too. Despite the vast majority pissed at how he’s handling it.

    The conflict between the Israelis and Palestinians is an especially vulnerable spot for Biden. With only 26% of U.S. adults approving of his handling of the issue, it’s well below his overall approval rating (39%). In the latest AP-NORC poll, nearly 6 in 10 Democrats disapprove of his approach to the conflict.

    He’s completely out of touch with what voters want. I have zero idea how anyone could think risking trump as president is worth giving an 82 year old we don’t want another term in office.

    Why are we running someone Dem voters actually want?

    That 26% of people that approve of what he’s doing with Israel is all US adults, including trump supporters. It’s not even 26% of Dems…

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    Key take away: The greatest threat to the winner of the next election is a strong breeze.

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    Why did anyone watch this debate? Were you expecting to learn something new? Are you on the fence and hoping this would help you make up your mind? I mean, the Trump people are going to vote for Trump, and the Biden people are going to vote for Biden, regardless, so it seems like a complete waste of time.

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    I’m downvoting this in the hopes that nobody watches this shit show.

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    Trump still bragging about “acing” his cognitive test (the one he took to rule out dementia). Then had the gall to say “I’d like to see [Biden] take one”.

    Really wish Dark Brandon would have come out to play. “Woman, Man, Camera, Podium. There. That’s what you keep bragging about”

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      I thought the same thing in the moment. Dark Brandon answering “person woman man camera tv”.

      But holy shit… we’re fucked.

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    Fuck, we had a crook that loves murder, extortion, rape, and corruption VS The Godfather

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          It might be live on the CNN site? I’m watching the PBS stream on Youtube since the CNN embed video refuses to load and kept crapping out.

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      I hear you. All you hear about is how incoherent Biden is… Bullshit. He comes across as articulate and knowledgeable here. Trump hasn’t said anything at all yet. He just keeps spouting idiotic generalizations about how bad the state of the country is without any examples or proof.

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        Calling Biden articulate is being incredibly generous. I mean, what on earth was he trying to communicate here?

        Overall, Biden put in a very lackluster, unconvincing performance while Trump did his usual schtick of rambling off topic, lying through his teeth, and refusing to answer any questions on policy. The whole thing was a shambles.

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        I hear you. All you hear about is how incoherent Biden is… Bullshit

        During a response to a question about abortion, Biden mentioned, seemingly out of nowhere, a young woman who was recently murdered by an immigrant — an apparent reference to a 12-year-old Houston girl who was strangled to death, allegedly by two Venezuelan men who entered the country illegally.

        The connection to abortion was unclear.

        https://apnews.com/live/presidential-debate-2024-updates

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        No, it’s hard to watch because Biden needs to clear his throat and keeps drifting off.

        Trump keeps not answering questions and lying and dodging.

        It’s all around pathetic.

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            I didn’t say they were the same. That’s a weird thing to say. I said they were both pathetic.

            Because they both are.

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      I really liked the part where he was trying to assure people that he probably, mayyyybe wouldn’t die in office, and ended by saying “We knock on wood wherever we may have wood” lmfao

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        Trump’s lies have gotten so over the top. We’re like two steps away from him saying he was one of the guys who walked on the moon.

        And his cult will believe it.

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    One hilarious take-away… Trump literally doesn’t know what the opioid crisis is. He completely floundered trying to respond.

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    What even is the point of this debate? They’ve both had a term in office. We know how both of them actually govern the actual country. What can this debate possibly convey that the past 8 years of governance hasn’t?

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      Whatever the point was, it’s a very sad show. Trump is a liar and Biden can’t string a sentence together.

      We’re all fucked.

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          Yeah. I had to turn it off. I’ll be surprised if Biden wins after this.

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        Yep, thats my impression as well so far.

        Trump is confidently blazing through (what should be) obvious lies, while Biden is mumbling and forgetting what he is trying to say half way through saying it.

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          I dont know why, but moderates keep acting like charisma doesn’t matter.

          They just keep repeating that money is what matters, because they’re good at taking money from people they shouldnt. But they’re bad at getting votes, people just don’t like them. Partly because of what they do for that money.

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          Yeah, he’s getting blasted by a firehose of bullshit. Though he seems to be getting pissed off, and that seems to be helping.

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        Someone down voted you but I can’t imagine why. I desperately want Biden to win but he looks like shit out there. Trump, meanwhile, is confidently spouting whatever horseshit pops into his head (even had the fucking gall to call Biden a criminal). Half the government is gleefully destroying the country and the other half is letting them. I honestly don’t see a way forward for this country. I don’t like to be a cynic but I cannot imagine a scenario where the next four years aren’t an absolute clusterfuck.

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    Biden stumbled and lost the tread in the opening minutes but is doing well now.

    Trump is doing a good job at being Trump. Pretty tired of him ignoring the question and talking about whatever he likes and the moderator letting him.