• Stamets [Mirror]@startrek.websiteOP
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    The fact that there are two references to Musk in Discovery is a bit disheartening. There’s this one from Lorca but another when Tilly says she went to a school named after Musk.

    I choose to believe that in this alternate universe he kept his mouth shut.

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      Think of all the shitty historical figures that are celebrated today because a century later no one remembers what they were actually like

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        Or people do remember but it’s “not polite” to bring it up. How many schools are named after Colombus? Or Edison?

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            More like what didn’t he do. He had a long list of underhanded and ruthless activities and stole most of his “inventions”.

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              Specifically, he’s the reason Hollywood is where it is. After his company invented movie cameras, he attempted to collect royalties on any movie created by an Edison camera, even having people harass and ruin movie sets and studios if they didn’t (as most movies were being produced in and around New York). So a lot of studios said “fuck you, you wanna collect, you’re gonna have to work for it” and moved across the country to California.

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            Look up “Topsy the elephant” (among other things).

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            No where near as much bad stuff as the internet thinks, likewise Tesla didn’t do anywhere near as much good stuff as people say - he’s didn’t even invent AC.

            The elephant thing gets hugely overblown too, it was going to be killed regardless, he just suggested a quicker and less cruel method (they had intended to hang it)

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        At least Henry Ford was a successful businessman while he moonlighted as a fascist. I bet SpaceX is his only company that will survive, and he doesn’t run it.

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        It’s my estimation that every man ever got a statue made of him was one kind of sommbitch or another. Ain’t about you, Jayne. It’s about what they need.

        -Malcon Reynolds

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        That’s very true. However those people weren’t shouting their horrific views to the world through an internationally used service. They also weren’t reported on by worldwide media and memed to high heaven. There’s a pretty solid record at this point of Elon being a cuntwaffle. Hard to forget that.

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        Doesn’t even have to bei a century. Plenty of people thinking Bill Gates is a cool dude, despite the shady and outright illegal shit Microsoft pulled off to make him rich.

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          People who think positively about Gates do so largely because of the genuinely positive charitable work he’s done since leaving Microsoft. I don’t think many people are defending Microsoft’s anticompetitive practices.

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        I mean, Musk IRL became famous in the late 1990s through to 2020s. What do we know about that time period in the Star Trek universe?

        I think it’s pretty safe to say that even if their Musk is the same “person”, his upbringing and circumstances would be so different that it’s not hard to believe that even if he was the same narcissistic arsehole, he did end up using that in a direction that genuinely furthered humanity’s technical progress, if only as a convenient byproduct.

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      An alternative timeline in which Elon isn’t a huge piece of shit. Hard to fathom, but it’s the only way I can see that working.

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      I’ve not seen the newer star trek shows yet, but given the whole global war stuff that happens in the star trek universe between now and the time the stories are usually set in, perhaps crucial details about who Musk was were lost to history, and he’s just remembered for something spaceX did at some point, or he’s had a pr campaign that was successful at getting history books of the future to portray him in a more flattering light?

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      This line was foreshadowing Lorca’s origin. You see, mirror Musk was actually competent, making him the precise inverse of real Musk.

      I don’t care that the timing is suspect and there’s another Musk reference in Discovery, I’ll die on this hill.

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        Nah, Mirror Musk was exactly the same as he is now.

        It is just that lying, bribing and being narcissistic are admiral traits in the Mirror Universe

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          It is just that lying, bribing and being narcissistic are admiral traits in the Mirror Universe

          Lying, bribing, and being narcissistic are considered admirable traits among specific social circles in our universe, too, especially the ones that babble about “Dark Triad theory” as a good thing to be emulated.

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      Tilly says she went to a school named after Musk.

      I firmly believe that someone had to talk the writer responsible out of making Tilly a graduate of Bit Connect High School.