Yes I am aware that they’re somehow supposed to reduce plastic waste because the cap can’t get lost … unless you cut it off, of course.
Yes I am also aware that there are people with disabilities (shaky hands, weak grip, etc.) who are thankful for these and actually like the design. Good for them, and I mean that in a non-sarcastic way.
But personally, I hate these things with all the “first world problems” rage I can muster and go out of my way to rip / cut / twist them off on every single bottle I buy. I don’t like having the bottle cap directly in my face while drinking, or slipping in the way of the flow whenever I just want to pour milk, and on more than one occasion, I’ve actually cut my finger OR lip on these little sh*ts (not the same type as in the picture, but baldy-made longer “bands” that leave little plastic spikes on the cap and/or band).
No idea whether I should post this in the “unpopular opinion” section instead or if other people think the same, but to me, “mildly infuriating” describes them perfectly.
Have you tried using a glass?
Yeah where’s your amphora OP?
How to say this in a non aggressive, non condescending way…
You’re stupid.
The thing stay open and out of the way. If it’s in your face when you drink from the bottle, it means you lack the ability to rotate a loose plastic ring 90° (or even the whole bottle). If it’s in the way of your pour, same thing.
They are as unobtrusive as it gets; and you going out of your way (with rage, it seems) to do something tedious like forcibly ripping them off or cutting yourself on smooth plastic instead of looking at it and moving it, effortlessly, in any position that would not hinder you, is the paramount of silliness.
They are not confortable at all. Let me try to think how to call you too… mmm…
Im sitting here in Canada just learning these exist in the first place.
This alongside paper straws.
Who thought paper and liquid was a good mix?
They should make it so the cap doesn’t come off at all, so you have to buy a glass bottle with a metal cap that are both recyclable and won’t give you erectile disfunction.
I’ve scene water been titles that were made of the same materials as a soda can. The lid was even threaded so you could reseal it.
If the cap doesn’t come off, we can stop worrying about spillage
I don’t mind them on soda, but during yoghurt is a mess. I have a beard and after drinking one of those I 8/10 times have a milky beard
milky beard
Good username
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Fuck plastic bottles in general, back to glass.
Yep, I can taste the fucking plastic. Back to glass!
Glass bottles are much much worse for the environment.
This generalization is a problem. Assessing the whole life cycle, the carbon footprint of glass bottles is problematic and plastics is a viable alternative.
You have to consider the significantly higher weight of glass increasing carbon emissions from transportation.
While plastics bottles can only be reused about half as often as glass bottles, their production is far more energy-efficient (glass production is done at temps of 1400-1600 °C or 2500-3000 °F while plastics use temperatures from 160-300 °C or 320-600 °F) which also reduces carbon footprint in basically every country.
Of course recycling has to be taken seriously and properly organized to prevent plastics just ending up in nature. But we have to balance the micro-plastics problem against climate change. We need to solve both.
You have to consider the significantly higher weight of glass increasing carbon emissions from transportation.
If the transportation was electrical renewable sourced this wouldn’t be a factor.
their production is far more energy-efficient (glass production is done at temps of 1400-1600 °C or 2500-3000 °F while plastics use temperatures from 160-300 °C or 320-600 °F)
If manufacturing was electrical renewable sourced this wouldn’t be a factor.
I don’t want micro plastics in my nutsack. I don’t care that it’ll be a long time before we get there. We should start getting there now. I don’t want to hear perfectionist fallacy arguments about why I should be happy to have plastics swimming around with my sperm.
I don’t want to hear perfectionist fallacy arguments
You mean like the ones you gave if there was a 100% renewable power grid and transportation was 100% electrical glass would be carbon neutral?
Well, both aren’t and we are a long way from either, so that argument stands. You may care about your nutsack, as do I about my own, but climate change is the more critical problem.
It used to be done a lot more before and some places still do it in Europe. You return the glass bottle intact, they reuse it as is. Only carbon spent is in transporting it.
It’s done less and less because recycling plastic bottles is better.
Well, you also have to clean them which I assume also uses energy. And they need to be fulfilling “food-grade” cleaning requirements since you want to drink out of them, so that’s probably more energy needed than a simple wash in soap.
This is done regardless of the source of the glass. IE fresh or reused glass gets the same cleaning treatment.
Yes (I actually live in Europe), but it cannot be reused indefinitely and needs to be recycled after about 50 uses (that’s why I mentioned the whole life cycle of a bottle). Also, glass breaks.
There’s a good reason why many carbonated drinks stopped being sold in glass bottles. When you go over a certain volume, they become bombs. There are videos online or 2L soda bottles falling over and sending shards of glass flying everywhere. I’d rather not have that back.
Glass bottles are also great at starting fires when they’re left outside by trashy people. Looking at how often I still find plastic trash in the woods, I’m not sure if switching to glass would make that much of an improvement.
Plus, you’d still have the same problem with the bottle cap.
Have you ever heard about the Exota affair in the Netherlands? In 1969, journalists uncovered the glass bottles of Exota soda were explosion hazards and their scathing TV episode about it drove the company to bankruptcy. It became a whole ordeal after the journalists and broadcaster were sued.
I think what I saw was the full version of this segment: https://youtu.be/Z9PM14qKhe4 Although, I think it may have been about the 1.5L/2L bottle as well, and this video is about the dangerous bottles that remained after a bunch of them got off the market.
The shots in the video you linked seem rather fake (and kind of artsy, I love old Dutch television sometimes), the video I recall had bottles treated rather normally.
If people were responsible they wouldn’t be needed.
It’s absolutely fine, it was mildly annoying the first two times and now in glad I don’t have to hold the cap while drinking.
Stop buying single use plastic and get a reusable!
#DeathToPlastic
Plastic is better for the environment than everything else.
There literally is no option for it. I can only buy my milk in cartons with this cap on
Then look around, more milk suppliers are using reusable glass bottles now.
You can go to your local farmer. They usually don’t bother selling you some milk. Bring your own bottle for them to fill it up. Also, its usually much cheaper than everything you can buy elsewhere. If you want to be sure you don’t get sick you can cook the milk(but this causes a loss in taste), but you can also drink it without cooling it. You might get sick the first (few) times, but you will get used to it and won’t get sick from drinking raw milk.
“Just milk the cow your self”
I can only buy yogurt in plastic containers, and I’m talking 32 oz containers not single serves
Plant milk, right?
Plant milk is pure sugar which is worse than cow milk that is half sugar. Better to just avoid consuming lots of it.
What are you talking about? Off the top of my head, unsweetened soy milk and unsweetened ripple (pea milk) have no or low sugar, and are high protein
I have two alternative options in my immediate neighbourhood in a big city in capitalist-shithole-central and I didn’t even have to try looking.
Big city, nice. I live in a small town. Could drive 30km to somewhere else, which I’m sure will not offset any savings xD
The best is to drink tap water(assuming you live in a region where its safe to drink).
That’s fine in some places. However, a lot of the US has contaminated drinking water due to lead mines. They mines are long closed but lead is everywhere. I don’t have to worry but I know people who have had there entire yards replaced due to lead.
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What’s folks’ lack of hair got to do with their bottle cap making skills?
Just repeating my comment from the same topic a while back.
So okay the bottle ones like this are fine
It is these fuckers I have an issue with
I swear if I ever see the person who designed the new milk cap I will make them choke on a fucking tetrapak.
How come? Does it close while you’re pouring?
It makes you spill the milk everywhere when opening because you don’t twist it but pull it upwards.
Oh.
Yeah that’s fucking stupid
The bottle cap folds out of the way. If you have it “in your face”, it sounds like a skill issue
What a total noob
Except they don’t fold but spring back to a position where the tension is low enough. Sadly that’s in my cheek.
Skill issue.
Certainly.
Yeah, only some bottles do that
This is some very short sighted thinking.
Caps attached to the bottles is very important to the recycling industry, so they can be more cheaply and efficiently shipped to China and thrown into the sea.
Source on that? As far as I know China stopped importing plastic waste as they realized it was too expensive for the state as they are burdened with the externalities, i.e. cleanup.
I think a few years ago it was China. Now it will be anybody else who wants Western money and doesn’t mind burning plastic. Malaysia and Turkey seem popular for the UK. Not sure where the US sends it. It sure as shit isn’t recycled in any way that people would think of as recycling.
I’ve no idea why we make plastic bottled drinks when aluminium cans exist.
Aluminum cans also have plastic in them
Not nearly as much though.
Also steel cans exist as well.
I don’t understand why caps coming with bottles helps recycle them?
