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Disqualified.
Same for me but with Dune/Star Trek vs Star Wars. I don’t get Star Wars and refuse to accept that lightsabers are a real weapon.
I mean, the basic premise of a lightsaber is pretty simple. You have some incredibly powerful power source, a blade made out of super hot plasma, and a magnetic containment bottle in the shape of a sword.
The reason they bounce off each other is the magnetic containment fields bashing into each other.
Farscape was so underrated. I love that show.
I guess the question is “What Who have you watched?”
For my money, peak Who will always be Tom Baker. Yes, it’s absurd, he knows it’s absurd and leans into it.
Baker FTW. He understood the assignment: Gandalf-Bugs-Mr-Bean, saving the universe with absolute pacifism and a crumpled bag of jelly babies.
The remake in the new format completely destroyed the character archetype, and turned him into a forced-whimsy action hero with a side of self-pity.
It’s a totally different take on Dr who compared to the ones from 2005, and the pacing is sooo slow, but sit back with some jelly babies and enjoy.
Found the Doctor Who nerd. pounce on him my lovelies.
Make mine Pertwee. The Barry Letts era is the most consistently good the show ever was, or likely ever will be. There were some individual Tom Baker stories that were better under Hinchcliffe and Williams, and some that were much worse *coughs* JNT *coughs* . Perhaps one of the hazards of Tom Baker’s long tenure. 😆
It sorta depends on the genre. It was initially supposed to be sorta a science education show but they abandoned that quick.
It was supposed to be a history education show. Travel through time and learn about history. They dropped that by story 2 where they go to an alien planet and meet the Daleks.
see I was told the whole daleks could only move on metal plates as it supposedly explaining science and how electricity needs conductors.
You’re not wrong. You just don’t have the absurdly strong nostalgia goggles that are required.
(fwiw: I don’t get it either ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
Farscape is a very soft sci-fi, but it has a mostly consistent world that mostly follows its internal logic. It has muppet aliens and the supernatural along side more traditional TV space tropes, but the narrative makes sense as presented, and it doesn’t do much to hurt your suspension of disbelief.
Doctor Who is the opposite of consistent. It makes shit up as it goes along and isn’t even consistent in the kind of bullshit it’s throwing at you. It can be tropey nonsense, comedy overriding reality, fairy tale reasoning that breaks down when you try to think about it to much, or whatever other idiocy it feels like being today. Instead of building a world that you can understand, it basically just says “don’t worry about it, assume we already did the boring set up stuff, and just run with the fact that plastic can be alive and chasing after people because that’s what we’re doing this week.”
Well that be the best argument I have ever heard for why I should chuck out my preconceived notions and join my life partner in LOving Doctor Who.
And that there are apparently several alien species concurrently living underneath London at any given time.
Well they all live at different depths and do occasionally fight/ally when they’re at the same depth…
This is explains why the people I know who love Doctor Who liked Star Trek: Picard. If you can suspend your disbelief for Doctor Who, Picard had some crazy scenes that felt good in the moment but kind of locally breaks reality and seems kind of stupid in the broader context.
Season 3 of Picard was pretty good. I’m not a fan of Dr Who though.
Nah, Dr. Who is terrible writing. Absolute garbage
I would say it depends on the season and episode, but yes after Davis left the quality has gone downhill.
He is back now, and it’s fine.
Much better than Chibnall since RTD actually understands Who.
Great looking forward to the new Tennant seasons
Enjoy the 4 specials, I’ve got the last of the Ncuti Gatwa series to go.
Different target audience?
I do not think so.
New Who tends to run on Bugs Bunny logic but also wants you to take it seriously. Try some old Doctor Who if you can handle very bad effects. Early Tom Baker or the Jon Pertwee stuff at least tries to make sense.
Also they often have the doctor have to work at the problem and have a plausible solution. Now it’s just I pushed the radiation in my shoe.
Back then the sonic screwdriver was just a high tech swiss army knife. The doctor would use it to open panels and rewire things. These days it’s a do anything magic wand.
You like what you like, idk why you have to be wrong about it. If you want insight into yourself on why you like this and not that, then therapy is where to go.
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i think a lot of great points have been made in this thread, but it’s also worth saying- you can’t be wrong about what you do and don’t dig!
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I think the comedy duo aspect was part if a reason that David Tenant/Catherine Tate were so engaging to watch
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Thank you. I thoroughly enjoyed your write up.
Battlestar Galactica might start as sci-fi but ends up as science fantasy. At some point a character comes back from the dead, becomes an angel, and much of the original mysticism becomes literal.
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Honestly I wouldn’t even call doctor who science fantasy. It’s just pure fantasy set around space travel and aliens. There’s absolutely nothing science about it, and they really don’t even try to make it seem that way. Anything that should have some sort of science explanation is just hand waved away, and thus internally inconsistent. The dr who universe is basically full of magic. Magic potions, magic wands, magic enemies, magic travel boxes, magic immortality, etc.
I think the sonic screwdriver is about as close as they have ever come to trying to explain any of it, and they basically only did that to point out the (rather absurd, story-necessary) limitations of the thing. One still has no actual idea what it can do or how it can work, just what it usually does and what it can’t do (sometimes and/or probably).
I agree actually, but the screwdriver is sciencey, and TARDIS does mention spacetime in a way lol.
Imo, the only reason it gets listed as sci-fi is that there wasn’t anything else to call a time travel show back when it started getting popular. Iirc, it was originally intended to be a history exploration more than anything else.
it’s been about 25 years since i seen it, so i don’t remember; when was farscape absurd?
Every. Single. Episode.
There was cartoon episode if I didn’t make that up in a fever dream.
You didn’t make it up. It is a fever dream.
the kooky vibe of each episode is the one thing i do remember decades later. lol
