The web browser thing seems like such a waste, especially when privacy-focused browsers already exist and can even integrate their suite of apps pretty easily.
I think its redundant and an incredibly bad idea to have my email, vpn, calendar, and cloud provider host my passwords. If I wanted a cloud based password manager, I’d use a standalone tool like Bitwarden. (imo, I realistically think protons implementation in probably just as secure for the average user.)
Either way, I think a password database is too important to store in the cloud, so I use KeePass.
You might think it is, but it’s clearly an integral part of a software suite. Whether it’s the Apple ecosystem, Google, Microsoft, or Proton, it’s a popular preference for the sake of convenience.
Unless Proton OS is a consideration, I dont think a browser is a natural progression. There are plenty of private browser options already being developed (and I think the proton extensions cover most conveniences). The only way I’d see a Proton browser as a positive thing is if they went all in on ladybird or some other completely independent browser engine.
My fault entirely. I guess my argument would be that those other corporations also shouldn’t be creating password managers, at least ‘within their ecosystem’.
I believe a password database should preferably be stored locally, and at least in a cloud that is completely separate from your essential account(s) (i.e Proton, Google, Microsoft accounts, etc.) I have no doubt Proton’s implementation is secure, but I think the principle of using it is not ideal.
What’s wrong with Pass? Genuine question.
The web browser thing seems like such a waste, especially when privacy-focused browsers already exist and can even integrate their suite of apps pretty easily.
I love Pass
I think its redundant and an incredibly bad idea to have my email, vpn, calendar, and cloud provider host my passwords. If I wanted a cloud based password manager, I’d use a standalone tool like Bitwarden. (imo, I realistically think protons implementation in probably just as secure for the average user.)
Either way, I think a password database is too important to store in the cloud, so I use KeePass.
You might think it is, but it’s clearly an integral part of a software suite. Whether it’s the Apple ecosystem, Google, Microsoft, or Proton, it’s a popular preference for the sake of convenience.
Unless Proton OS is a consideration, I dont think a browser is a natural progression. There are plenty of private browser options already being developed (and I think the proton extensions cover most conveniences). The only way I’d see a Proton browser as a positive thing is if they went all in on ladybird or some other completely independent browser engine.
I replied to a post of yours discussing Pass, not a browser.
My fault entirely. I guess my argument would be that those other corporations also shouldn’t be creating password managers, at least ‘within their ecosystem’.
I believe a password database should preferably be stored locally, and at least in a cloud that is completely separate from your essential account(s) (i.e Proton, Google, Microsoft accounts, etc.) I have no doubt Proton’s implementation is secure, but I think the principle of using it is not ideal.
In addition, a lot of Proton services are overpriced compared to third-party offerings.