If President Joe Biden decides to withdraw from the election, Democrats need not fear — they have a ticket in front of them that can still defeat presumptive Republican nominee Donald Trump.
I think people underestimate how much the Clinton name helped her even when the sexism hurt her. Beyond maybe Michelle Obama now, I can’t think of any other woman out there likely to perform as well as Hilary did. During the race, I heard more than one person make comments along the lines of “If she’s in trouble, she can just call her husband”. She definitely got a lot more points from the Clinton name than she lost for being a woman. It’s a sad world sometimes, yall.
I personally think Bill Clinton’s brother Roger could have won that race even with all his controversies and the fact that he has zero qualifications.
I remember the conservatives I worked with hated H. Clinton for “wanting to take our guns away.” I told her (it was a white 20 year old girl I was talking to specifically in this group) that whole idea is untrue.
Clinton didn’t lose because of her horrible treatment of Africans, her philosophy that abortion should be a states’ right issue, because she is a woman, etc. She lost because the “Dems want our guns” propaganda. Conservatives are a simple breed.
She lost the race in swing states where “independents” choose the winner. If she had been “John Clinton,” with every single bit of the politcal baggage and none of the sexist baggage, I guarantee she would have cleared that 80k vote hurdle in those 3 states.
You do you, but I will write in Jill Stine first. Dems are only my first pick if their pick is viable. Putting up a Cop in the current climate is asking to lose.
Only Republicans can promote LE and expect them to win right now.
Idk. America is still pretty racist and even more sexist.
Did you forget that Hilary Clinton won the popular vote?
Sexist enough that a woman who no one likes won the popular vote in 2016. …
Joe would have won that election, let alone Bernie. It would have been a different world today
I think people underestimate how much the Clinton name helped her even when the sexism hurt her. Beyond maybe Michelle Obama now, I can’t think of any other woman out there likely to perform as well as Hilary did. During the race, I heard more than one person make comments along the lines of “If she’s in trouble, she can just call her husband”. She definitely got a lot more points from the Clinton name than she lost for being a woman. It’s a sad world sometimes, yall.
I personally think Bill Clinton’s brother Roger could have won that race even with all his controversies and the fact that he has zero qualifications.
She lost due to her connections.
Her speaking engagements cost her important votes in key states.
If the left wants to win Goldman and Chase are Kryptonite.
I remember the conservatives I worked with hated H. Clinton for “wanting to take our guns away.” I told her (it was a white 20 year old girl I was talking to specifically in this group) that whole idea is untrue.
Clinton didn’t lose because of her horrible treatment of Africans, her philosophy that abortion should be a states’ right issue, because she is a woman, etc. She lost because the “Dems want our guns” propaganda. Conservatives are a simple breed.
Popular vote dont get you shit here.
She lost the race in swing states where “independents” choose the winner. If she had been “John Clinton,” with every single bit of the politcal baggage and none of the sexist baggage, I guarantee she would have cleared that 80k vote hurdle in those 3 states.
That’s a red herring. The original comment was “America is sexist,” and that’s a statement based on quantities.
So yeah, the popular vote matters here.
She lost swing states because she decided she didn’t need to campaign there.
Not if her statements and Goldman Sachs relationship were as public as they are. Goldman and Chase are political kryptonite for anyone on the left.
Goldman killed Warren in 2020.
It’s a sad but fair point
The only color that matters is blue. I will never vote a cop for president.
I will vote for freaking Training Day if it keeps Trump out of office.
You do you, but I will write in Jill Stine first. Dems are only my first pick if their pick is viable. Putting up a Cop in the current climate is asking to lose.
Only Republicans can promote LE and expect them to win right now.
So you’ll misspell a write-in vote for an idiotic Russian plant. Sounds like you’re really someone to listen to on this.
Might want to spell her name correctly, then.
Then you’re giving an edge to Trump.
Thanks for nothing.
The Democrats cannot fail us.
It is only us who can fail the Democrats.
Keep pumping unviable candidates it will be 2016 all over again. Clinton couldn’t have won a bake off. Kamala is Clinton with lead weights.
You’re saying here that you either wouldn’t vote, vote independent or vote for Trump.
Which one of these Trump-helping options is it?
I mean what I said. My first pick is dem provided they present a viable candidate.
You want to be a reductionary dick that’s on you and your phil.
You will help Trump win. Is there a scenario with your actions in which Trump is not being helped if you don’t vote for Biden?
And notice that I’m not saying “vote for Biden, goddamit!” I really am curious.
Doing the same thing over and over while expecting a different result is the definition of insanity.