• Baron Von J@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    My dude, Biden has had more bipartisan success than Obama did. So I really don’t think you have a winning point here.

    Like, you get that’s where your logic leads right?

    No, but I get that it’s where you insist on taking it.

    Neither of those options makes people energized to vote for him again, and this election is too important to risk Joe.

    You have it wrong, this election is too important to risk not voting Democratic regardless if it is Joe. O will vote blue regardless. Will you?

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      4 months ago

      , this election is too important to risk not voting Democratic regardless if it is Joe

      There are 10s of millions of voters Biden needs to convince, and every indication is he’s not going to be able to convince enough, especially not the tens of thousands up for grabs in battleground states.

      It’s easier to switch out Biden while there’s still time than to convince all those people.

      You’re worried about forcing everyone into making a smart decision. We’re talking about the American public here. We don’t have a good track record with that.

      So rather than gamble on the intelligence of the American public, why not give them a better candidate?

      What’s the benefit of sticking with Biden? How many people already willing to vote for Biden isn’t voting D regardless of candidate?

      You’re right that everyone should vote Biden.

      But that doesn’t matter. The American public does the wrong thing almost constantly, have you been in public lately?

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        4 months ago

        What you don’t seem to be understanding is that I’m not arguing for Biden being the nominee. I’m arguing against not voting Democratic in the event the Biden is the nominee:

        Anybody who supports the Democratic platform relative to the Republican platform and says they won’t vote if Biden is on the ticket is, quite simply, failing our society most egregiously. Protest voting does nothing but lose.

        I’m not objecting to people asking for a better candidate. I’m concerned that those people will fuck over the rest of the country and not vote Democratic if they don’t get one.

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          4 months ago

          I’m arguing against not voting Democratic in the event the Biden is the nominee:

          To who?

          Who are you arguing against?

          No one that’s here…

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            4 months ago

            I’m arguing with you, because you’re out here misplacing blame on Biden for things that are under the purview of Congress and declaring that the Democrats will lose even the down-ballot races if he’s the nominee. If you’re going to vote Democratic regardless who the nominee is, then please make that statement alongside everything else you’re stating. Otherwise you sound like you’re going to protest vote if Biden is the nominee.

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              4 months ago

              I’m arguing with you

              For something I never said…

              This isnt the first you’ve done it either, I don’t think it’ll magically become productive. Have a nice life