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The right-wing agenda gets less popular the more voters learn about it, a new poll shows.
New polling out on Tuesday suggests that Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump’s best hope for Project 2025, the far-right policy agenda that at least 140 of his former administration officials helped craft, was that most Americans would remain unfamiliar with it.
Over the past month, though, a growing number of voters have learned more about the 900-page plan spearheaded by the right-wing Heritage Foundation—and public opinion of the agenda has plummeted as it’s become more widely known.
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Just 11% of people polled viewed the agenda favorably, while 43% had unfavorable views—a 24-point increase since June.
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If you have conservative “old fashioned” friends and family members who are OK with the toxic sludge of regressive cultural stuff in Project 2025: scare them with the truth that they want to also cut social security and medicare. Two very popular programs with old people. Old people vote in large numbers. Old people remember paying into the social security and medicare systems for their entire career. They won’t like it when the leopards eat their faces.
And veteran’s benefits. Lots of elderly veterans out there.
My favorite answer from conservatives is that “this is just a think-tank; it’s not really gonna happen.”
Despite the Christian nationalists explicitly saying this is what they want and having achieved a huge victory for the patriarchy by taking away the right to abortion.
Fucking shameless.
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I doubt social security would matter. My parents have been talking about it for 30 years now that they will never see it and how much of a waste it is. The defense would be, I have been hearing that all my life and it hasn’t happened yet.
Why will they never see it?
Because the talks of social security not being able to last due to it costing more than it takes in has always been a talking point politically. The line on when it ends just keeps getting extended.
The younger crowd should also be concerned that they want to cut overtime pay and change it from 40 hours a week to 160 hours a month before you get time and a half. So many of these guys fund their mall crawling brodozers with their overtime pay.
Lmao. Wow. Way to kick the working class in the nuts.
Unfortunately I have one BIL who will vote for Trump no matter what comes out because he’s just swallowed every single talking point about Democrats from Fox News without the slightest bit of consideration, and the elderly folks who I am thinking of would vote for anyone with R after their name because it’s just what they’ve always done.
Same with all my extended family except maybe 2 people who will use the “both sides” BS to not vote. It’s very depressing.
“both sides” BS to not vote
I have an acquaintance, a “formerly” rabid-right-wing, anti-union, global-warming-isn’t-real, they-hate-our-freedom, wealthy, fossil-fuel-family Reactionary from the western US who is doing this now. Apparently now with grown daughters and an immigrant son-in-law, Trump, formerly touted to me by this guy as “a really smart guy” and “doing some great things” (at the time, the great thing was withdrawing from the Paris accords), is not quite as palatable as before. But rather than focusing on Trump’s shortcomings, it’s better in the Reactionary’s view to fixate instead on Biden’s genocide support (while ignoring Trump’s and the GOP’s enthusiasm for the practice), assert that “both sides” are just a “uni-party”, and throw up his hands and claim to be not voting this time around, or voting for some hopeless brain-worrmed third party candidate. Anything, anything at all, except for showing one iota of opposition to old Doddering Donald, anything but admit that you, the Reactionary, made disgusting wrong choices in the past and are about to, for all intents and purposes, make them again. The bottom line aim is that taxes remain low, dividends and capital gains remain high, and regulations, whether it be on the Environment or child labor, remain minimal. Voting for Trump directly is preferred to achieve these aims, but both-sides-ing him into office again is fine too if you need the plausible deniability because of pressure from your misguided Communist family members.
Better than voting for Trump, at least.
As is ever the case with conservative policies. As long as people know about them they don’t like them. That’s why they focus so hard so incredibly hard, and so incredibly successfully, on catchphrases and messaging. Because most people will settle for just a simple catch phrase, or a 10-word answer, and not look closer.
It’s why their main messaging is to attack their opponents rather than focus on the policies they would like to implement…
IVF was the only way my wife and myself could have children. I have my first newborn this year, we have additional eggs frozen. It took a long time to get to where I am at for IVF, fuck anyone that even slightly supports this atrocity. I hope people both Rep/Dem look bad and are sickened at what is trying to be accomplished
I’m so confused. But I’m also relieved. I can’t believe Trump fell into his own trap he was making his voters scared of “the green new deal” now he’s made his own boogeyman
We’re talking about Trump’s Project 2025 plan, right? The one endorsed by Donald Trump, that Project 2025?
That’s right, Trump’s Project 2025 that many people of Trump’s team also helped write
It’s this the one authored by >100 people from the Trump administration, that mentions him like 300 times? That Project 2025?
Are you guys talking about Trump’s Project 2025? I’ve heard a lot of bad things about Trump’s 2025 project.
Yeah, a lot of people are saying it. Smart people. Trump’s Project 2025 would be a disaster.
Didn’t he already disown it? Not that we should rationally analyze such an irrational character
“I don’t even know what Project 2025 is! This sort of thing ain’t my bag, baby.”
“One book, ‘Project 2025 And Me: This Sort of Thing Is My Bag, Baby,’ by Donald Trump.”
I love this comment
He’s trying to distance himself because he knows how unpopular it is, but it’s an outright lie. He’s all in on it.
Slightly easier to read version of the table below that a kind ledditor (?) created recently.
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He’s trying to distance himself from it but yeah, almost everything he says is a lie.
Much harder to find truth in his statements than it is lies.
He said he was not involved in its creation (fact it was written by his old staff means nothing ofc /s). He has not refused to implement it generally and complimented several of its specific plans.
The Right doesn’t care if most people like it. It’s not for most people - fascism never is.
They care about taking power and enacting their plans. Public opinion’s got nothing to do with it
They care if it keeps their guy from getting elected, though
Their guy getting elected depends on the electoral college, which only loosely represents the popular vote. They don’t need MOST people to like their plans. They need most people in certain districts in certain states.
I thought they learned in 16 that putting their plans in writing was a guarantee loss.
The Republican base is fully supportive of everything in Trump’s Project 2025 so Republican legislators will absolutely push to see it all come to fruition.
Which is why I find it terrifying that people say trump has no policy.
If they said “trump has no policy solution to problems the masses want to see solved” they’d be absolutely right. But I never see it worded that way. In fact, previous to project 2025 almost no one seemed to think there was any coherent direction to his actions. And yeah I get it, he failed on things like the wall. But he also did a lot of anti-immigrant, anti-women, and anti-democratic things which should never be forgotten.
The best thing Project 2025 did was write down all the horrible plans they had so that people could react to it instead of dismissing opponents pointing out what the conservative talking points would actually mean in practice.
They wrote down that they were leopards who planned to eat faces!
Lol I thought you wrote eat feces for a sec.
Yeah I agree with you though. They got bold. They probably will keep their evil plans more under wraps in the future, unless trump wins.
They also gave it a catchy, vague name that people can associate anything they want with, but short enough to remember easily. No “PATRIOT Act” here. The only way they could have made it an easier target would be to call it “The Document of Sinister Evil”.
“The Gilead and The Obesity”
It also covers so much evil. Banning abortions, banning porn, ending the ACA, ending school funding, ending Trans rights, cutting medicare and social security, on and on and on.
Even if you agree with some of the evil, it has so much that youre going to find something that you don’t like in it.
It’s an easy thing to get consensus across the political sphere because there is so much hate in it.
Also give it a simple name and thing to focus on. Which is much much easier to describe to masses of people, and to rally around.
