• Mia@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    Oh my god look at how big this Java project is before I compile it, what a nightmare!!1!1!1!

    When shipping to customers, all code is your responsibility, dependency or otherwise. A bug or a security vulnerability, which aren’t rare in the JS ecosystem, is your responsibility whether you wrote the code or not. Customers don’t care if someone else wrote it, it’s your product, you are to blame. Thus, the less code, the better. Less moving parts also means more stability in general.

    the most popular language and the most successful cross platform development platform in the entire history of programming

    But no, I’m sure it’s the millions of successful developers and users who are wrong.

    People can be successful with things that aren’t perfect. It’s often a matter of being the first, not being the best. Something can be popular and still not be good, momentum is hard to stop. If JS’s own creator saying so in the last few years can’t convince you of that, I don’t know what will. Flash at one point was the most popular. It was still flawed, and a liability, but I bet that doesn’t hurt you as much to hear.

    Everything is shit but you amirite?

    Quite the contrary. I have flaws like everybody else, but at least I don’t deflect every single criticism of stuff I like because in can’t fathom it not being perfect. It’s fine, use it. Maybe one day you’ll find a platform that’ll make you realize there’s better stuff out there.

    But I’m done arguing with you. I should have known by the tone of your first reply that this wasn’t going to be a real discussion, just you being butthurt because someone said something negative about your favourite language. Go get butthurt somewhere else.

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      You still havent actually articulated a single criticism that’s not a vague generality, after coming in like an edge lord ranting about it like it’s the devil spawn.

      And yeah bud, all the code you ship is your responsibility, which is why building on open source code that you can fix whenever you need is far preferable to building on a closed source compiled black box like most languages.

      People can be successful with things that aren’t perfect. It’s often a matter of being the first, not being the best. Something can be popular and still not be good, momentum is hard to stop. If JS’s own creator saying so in the last few years can’t convince you of that, I don’t know what will. Flash at one point was the most popular. It was still flawed, and a liability, but I bet that doesn’t hurt you as much to hear.

      Lmao, one salty dev, vs the literal millions of seniors developers and fortune 500 companies who disagree and choose to use it.

      Again, if it’s a liability name how, if your argument is “oooo open source scary, there’s no way to verify it, I’ll trust Oracle to give me a closed source compiled library that’s sure to be flawless”, I’m going to laugh in your face. Supply chain attacks are a problem, they are not an unsolvable one or even a particularly difficult to address one compared to the benefits of open source.

      Quite the contrary. I have flaws like everybody else, but at least I don’t deflect every single criticism of stuff I like because in can’t fathom it not being perfect. It’s fine, use it. Maybe one day you’ll find a platform that’ll make you realize there’s better stuff out there.

      Try and quit bitching about tone and vague bullshit you heard on Reddit and articulate an actual real world problem that you have with it on a day to day basis. You came in here screaming it’s shit like the devil’s spawn, all I’ve done is ask you to explain why and point out why issues like equality comparison, converting to 32bit for bitwise operations, and it being open source, are not big deals for most devs.