I can attest this is true for me. I was shopping for a new clothes washer, and was strongly considering an LG until I saw it had “AI wash”. I can see relevance for AI in some places, but washing clothes is NOT one of them. It gave me the feeling LG clothes washer division is full of shit.
Bought a SpeedQueen instead and been super happy with it. No AI bullshit anywhere in their product info.
Speed Queen for the win. I recently replaced a couple of trusty machines that had finally given up after decades of abuse. Went for speed queen, no regrets.
Honestly, +1 for SpeedQueen. That’s the brand that every laundromat uses, because they’re basically the Crown Vic of washers; They’re uglier than sin, but they’ll run for literal decades with very little maintenance. They do exactly one thing, (clean your clothes), and they do that one thing very well. They’re the “somehow my grandma’s appliances still work 70 years later, while mine all break after three years" of washing machines.
SpeedQueen doesn’t have any of the modern bells or whistles… But that also means there’s nothing to break prematurely and turn the washer into the world’s largest paperweight. Samsung washers, for instance, have infamously shitty LCD panels, which are notorious for dying right after the warranty expires. And when it dies, the entire washer is dead until you replace basically the entire control interface. SpeedQueen doesn’t have this issue, because they don’t even have LCD panels; everything is just physical knobs and buttons. If something ever does break, it’s just a mechanical switch that you can swap out in 15 minutes with a YouTube tutorial.
FYI, all current Speed Queen models except the Classic Series dryer (DC5, not the washer) are electronically controlled. Even the ones with knobs. They are not mechanical and no longer use the oldschool sequencing drums.
The TR7/DR7 are at least still sold with a 7 year manufacturer’s warranty, though. This is specifically to assuage consumer fears about the electronic control panel.
I was shopping for a new clothes washer, and was strongly considering an LG until I saw it had “AI wash”. I can see relevance for AI in some places, but washing clothes is NOT one of them.
I might be thinking the same. But I actually purchased an LG washer a couple months ago and finally got around to finding and reading the manual, and realized that I should have been doing “AI wash” instead of the “normal wash” that I always did.
The manual says that this is what “AI wash” actually is for:
“This cycle automatically adjusts wash and rinse patterns based on load size”.
Yes! A washer doesn’t need AI or wifi. It needs power, water, detergent and dirty laundry. Had a guest the other day pull out their phone and go Oh my dish washer is out of surfactant. Why the fuck do you need to know that, when you’re 20min away by car?
I will pay more if an appliance isn’t internet connected.
It’s cause GenAI copoted AI. Before all the LLM nonsense most people where using Machine Learning (ML) and Artificial Intelligence (AI) interchangeably.
I hated the use of AI before and now GenAI has made the whole thing 10x worse.
I’d be fairly certain the washing machine has a few sensors and a fairly simple computer program (designed by humans) that can make some limited adjustments to the wash cycle on the fly.
I’ve seen quite a few instances of stuff like that suddenly being called “AI” as that’s the big buzzword now.
in terms of mp3 players, it may not all be marketing nonsense, I found that out while researching ipods/mp3 players for a friend. Typically since they are decidicated audio devices, they support better quality g
formats/codecs then typical phones, so being mp3 compatible means it supports those higher qualities. The higher quality will still play on phones but, you just don’t get that better quality.
yea, I’m just responding with the reason why it might not be, you can apply that entire post to headphones as well. Both need the capability to handle it. Just take a shitty 99 cent pair of earphones from Walmart vs the 150$ pair and you’ll hear the difference
Saying MP3 compatible that it supports everything the MP3 player does where if it wasn’t you might still have the audio but it wouldn’t be as good
I can attest this is true for me. I was shopping for a new clothes washer, and was strongly considering an LG until I saw it had “AI wash”. I can see relevance for AI in some places, but washing clothes is NOT one of them. It gave me the feeling LG clothes washer division is full of shit.
Bought a SpeedQueen instead and been super happy with it. No AI bullshit anywhere in their product info.
Speed Queen is great stuff. It will last just about forever. When it does break it is built so it can be repaired.
Speed Queen for the win. I recently replaced a couple of trusty machines that had finally given up after decades of abuse. Went for speed queen, no regrets.
Honestly, +1 for SpeedQueen. That’s the brand that every laundromat uses, because they’re basically the Crown Vic of washers; They’re uglier than sin, but they’ll run for literal decades with very little maintenance. They do exactly one thing, (clean your clothes), and they do that one thing very well. They’re the “somehow my grandma’s appliances still work 70 years later, while mine all break after three years" of washing machines.
SpeedQueen doesn’t have any of the modern bells or whistles… But that also means there’s nothing to break prematurely and turn the washer into the world’s largest paperweight. Samsung washers, for instance, have infamously shitty LCD panels, which are notorious for dying right after the warranty expires. And when it dies, the entire washer is dead until you replace basically the entire control interface. SpeedQueen doesn’t have this issue, because they don’t even have LCD panels; everything is just physical knobs and buttons. If something ever does break, it’s just a mechanical switch that you can swap out in 15 minutes with a YouTube tutorial.
FYI, all current Speed Queen models except the Classic Series dryer (DC5, not the washer) are electronically controlled. Even the ones with knobs. They are not mechanical and no longer use the oldschool sequencing drums.
The TR7/DR7 are at least still sold with a 7 year manufacturer’s warranty, though. This is specifically to assuage consumer fears about the electronic control panel.
I might be thinking the same. But I actually purchased an LG washer a couple months ago and finally got around to finding and reading the manual, and realized that I should have been doing “AI wash” instead of the “normal wash” that I always did.
The manual says that this is what “AI wash” actually is for:
“This cycle automatically adjusts wash and rinse patterns based on load size”.
Yes! A washer doesn’t need AI or wifi. It needs power, water, detergent and dirty laundry. Had a guest the other day pull out their phone and go Oh my dish washer is out of surfactant. Why the fuck do you need to know that, when you’re 20min away by car?
I will pay more if an appliance isn’t internet connected.
I doubt there’s any actual AI in the LG product, it’s just a marketing buzzword like they used to use the term ‘smartwash’
Interestingly, LG’s AI Wash pre-dates the public release of ChatGPT by almost two years. Truly pioneers.
It’s cause GenAI copoted AI. Before all the LLM nonsense most people where using Machine Learning (ML) and Artificial Intelligence (AI) interchangeably.
I hated the use of AI before and now GenAI has made the whole thing 10x worse.
I’d be fairly certain the washing machine has a few sensors and a fairly simple computer program (designed by humans) that can make some limited adjustments to the wash cycle on the fly.
I’ve seen quite a few instances of stuff like that suddenly being called “AI” as that’s the big buzzword now.
Much like all the companies who used to market their headphones as “MP3 compatible”.
It’s just more marketing nonsense.
in terms of mp3 players, it may not all be marketing nonsense, I found that out while researching ipods/mp3 players for a friend. Typically since they are decidicated audio devices, they support better quality g formats/codecs then typical phones, so being mp3 compatible means it supports those higher qualities. The higher quality will still play on phones but, you just don’t get that better quality.
I’m not talking about players, I specifically mentioned headphones. A pair of small speakers you stick on your ears.
yea, I’m just responding with the reason why it might not be, you can apply that entire post to headphones as well. Both need the capability to handle it. Just take a shitty 99 cent pair of earphones from Walmart vs the 150$ pair and you’ll hear the difference
Saying MP3 compatible that it supports everything the MP3 player does where if it wasn’t you might still have the audio but it wouldn’t be as good
Sound compatible, fully electric