I’m curious to know what Harris stands for and this article doesn’t seem to offer much.
This country really needs Project 2025, doesn’t it?
Project 2025 seems bad and I wouldn’t suggest voting for a guy like Vance or Trump, given his support of it. But Harris’s response appears to be to just not talk about policy and campaign without upsetting anybody.
They’re decided by an electoral college selected by the party. We’ve seen state governments assert the right of the state legislature to usurp the popular vote by citing Rehnquist’s decision in Bush v Gore. And while you’d like to think this remains a decision in popular hands, Idk how current composition of the SCOTUS will respond if presented with an opportunity to overturn another general election victory by the Democrats.
Who wins when not enough people per state vote for Harris?
In theory, its the Big Scary Cheeto (or, assuming another Demolition Ranch subscriber gets within 400 feet of the former Prez, JD “Couchfucker” Vance).
But if all you care about is Not-Trump, why are you in a thread talking about Harris’s policy? Why take offense at anyone asking? You know who you’re voting for, regardless of what she says, so why are you in here pretending that you care?
I am not pretending that I care that people don’t vote for Harris.
Then you think you’d care about the nine people who will ultimately decide this election. You’d think that would lead to more calls of “Pack the Court”, “Fight illegal felony disenfranchisement laws”, and “Support universal mail-in voting”, rather than “Fuck you for asking what anyone supports”.
Instead, I’m seeing someone who is willing to waltz blindly into another Bush v Gore SCOTUS sponsored upset while screaming “Fascist!” at the Naderites.
Why don’t you care about that?
The difference between caring about this election and caring about democracy is in wanting your team to win this round and wanting general participation in democratic institutions after November.
And possibly because it’ll upset the victims of the private industry. MFA is the only solution to the American healthcare crisis. They’ve already sold off parts of Medicare. We need to kill the private health insurance industry or it will keep trying to get us back here
I think its more like when you see somebody step on a rake and it hits them in the face. The natural response is to be like “oh no” . Fortunately these are second hand sources and Walz is hopefully on hand to check some of the more lawyer tendencies when dealing with the public.
I’ve read them all.
They complain about policy more, explain the election system, and complain about Netenyahoo jerking us around. None of which suggests to not vote for Harris.
I think you are deliberately refusing to see something that pretty much everyone else here can see just because he isn’t literally saying “don’t vote for Harris.”
But sure, maybe he’s saying not to vote at all. Which is basically the same thing.
As someone who is terminally on Lemmy you should do more to build a better culture of charitable interpretation of what people are saying instead of trying to fucking gestapo-up alleged Trump supporters and silence any criticism of your preferred candidate.
Close.
I’m deliberately refusing to infer something that isn’t implied. I’m refusing to try to mind-read someone I don’t know. I’m deliberately accepting their statements at face value, because I don’t know them.
It’s how I would hope people read what I write.
And how I believe we can have more productive interactions online.
Well I do know them. I’ve seen them post here for a long time. I’ve also seen them switch almost immediately from “don’t vote for Biden” to “don’t vote for Harris.”
You gotta realize, America isn’t a new iPhone release with chamfered edges. We’re trying to save America from Fascism. That the campaign is also doing things on top of that is just great. They’ve already probably accomplished much more in the last 4 years than you realized, not even counting the fact that they had to undo the clusterfuck that DonOld the Orange Bloat left behind where departments had no people, no records, nothing.
Example of what you should expect in the future based on the last 4 years (as summarized by ChatGPT):
Created over 12 million jobs, including 6.6 million in the first year—more than any other president in U.S. history.
Passed the American Rescue Plan, providing direct relief to Americans and supporting economic recovery post-pandemic.
Achieved record investments in U.S. manufacturing through the CHIPS and Science Act, fostering innovation and reducing dependence on foreign semiconductors.
Implemented the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest investment in clean energy and climate action in U.S. history.
Healthcare and Social Policies:
Expanded healthcare access and reduced premiums under the Affordable Care Act, saving Americans $800 per year on average.
Passed the PACT Act to address health impacts on veterans exposed to toxins.
Provided historic student debt relief, including forgiveness of up to $20,000 for Pell Grant recipients.
Infrastructure and Environmental Initiatives:
Passed the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, allocating $1.2 trillion to improve roads, bridges, public transit, and broadband across the country.
Committed to ambitious climate goals, aiming for a 50-52% reduction in U.S. greenhouse gas emissions by 2030.
Social Justice and Civil Rights:
Protected marriage equality for LGBTQI+ and interracial couples through bipartisan legislation.
Reauthorized the Violence Against Women Act and implemented measures to reduce police violence, including banning chokeholds and no-knock warrants at the federal level.
Successfully nominated and confirmed Ketanji Brown Jackson, the first Black woman to serve on the U.S. Supreme Court.
Foreign Policy and National Security:
Rallied international support for Ukraine in response to Russia’s invasion, strengthening NATO and facilitating the addition of Finland and Sweden to the alliance.
Led successful counterterrorism operations, eliminating key leaders of ISIS and Al Qaeda without committing large numbers of U.S. ground troops.
Economic and Trade Policies:
Navigated the U.S. economy through high inflation and interest rate challenges, maintaining economic growth with a 2.5% GDP increase in 2023.
Introduced a new approach to globalization, balancing trade with industrial policies to boost U.S. manufacturing and secure jobs.
Departmental and Agency Accomplishments
Department of Transportation (DOT)
Safety Regulations: Implemented several final rules to improve transportation safety, including:
Requiring railroads to provide real-time information to emergency personnel about hazardous material shipments.
Introducing rules to enhance rail safety by mandating adequate training and certification for train dispatchers and signal employees.
Mandating automatic emergency braking systems in passenger cars and light trucks to reduce accidents.
Consumer Protections: Expanded airline passenger rights, requiring airlines to provide automatic cash refunds for canceled or significantly changed flights, and imposed penalties on airlines for consumer protection violations.
Infrastructure Investments: Funded nearly 3,000 low- and zero-emission transit buses and over 5,000 clean school buses as part of efforts to modernize the transportation system.
Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
Broadband Expansion: Expanded broadband access across the U.S., focusing on underserved and rural areas.
Combatting Robocalls: Intensified efforts to crack down on illegal robocalls, implementing stricter rules and encouraging carriers to adopt call authentication technology.
Net Neutrality and Digital Equity: Worked on restoring net neutrality protections and advancing digital equity initiatives.
Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
Consumer Protection: Focused on protecting consumers from deceptive practices, particularly in online marketplaces and digital platforms.
Antitrust Enforcement: Increased antitrust efforts, particularly in the tech industry, to challenge mergers and practices that could harm competition.
Subscription Services: Launched initiatives to make it easier for consumers to unsubscribe from unwanted memberships and recurring payments.
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
Combatting PFAS Pollution: Launched a comprehensive PFAS Roadmap to research, restrict, and remediate harmful PFAS chemicals in the environment.
Climate Action: Took significant steps to reduce methane emissions through the Super Emitter Program, which monitors large methane leaks and requires operators to address them.
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
Consumer Relief: Enforcement actions since 2021 resulted in approximately $19 billion in relief for consumers, impacting around 195 million people.
Fair Lending Practices: Referred a record number of fair lending matters to the Department of Justice for enforcement.
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)
Worker Protections: Actively protected workers’ rights, including reversing Trump-era policies that limited workers’ ability to organize and collectively bargain.
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)
Financial Stability: Strengthened regulations to ensure financial stability and consumer protection, including stricter oversight of financial institutions.
Department of Energy (DOE)
Infrastructure Investments: Key player in modernizing U.S. energy infrastructure, including investments in clean energy technologies and grid modernization.
Carbon Capture and Storage: Advanced carbon capture and storage technologies through initiatives like the Carbon Negative Shot.
Energy Equity: Emphasized ensuring that the benefits of clean energy reach underserved communities.
Department of Education
Student Debt Forgiveness: Implemented historic student debt relief, including cancellation of up to $20,000 in federal student loans for Pell Grant recipients.
Public Service Loan Forgiveness: Overhauled the PSLF program to make it easier for borrowers to qualify for loan forgiveness.
Pandemic Response: Directed significant funding from the American Rescue Plan to help schools reopen safely and address learning loss.
Equity in Education: Increased funding for schools serving low-income students and strengthened enforcement of civil rights laws in schools.
But you gotta realize, I didn’t mention Biden’s accomplishments. It’s all arguing against something I wasn’t even talking about. So as great as your comment is, it’s kinda misplaced.
Yes, yes. We all know that you folks have moved on from “don’t vote for Biden” to “don’t vote for Harris.”
This country really needs Project 2025, doesn’t it?
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I’m curious to know what Harris stands for and this article doesn’t seem to offer much.
Project 2025 seems bad and I wouldn’t suggest voting for a guy like Vance or Trump, given his support of it. But Harris’s response appears to be to just not talk about policy and campaign without upsetting anybody.
Who do you think wins if people don’t vote for Harris?
American elections aren’t decided by the popular vote, so its anyone’s guess.
They are decided by the per-state popular vote, as I am sure you know.
Who wins when not enough people per state vote for Harris?
They’re decided by an electoral college selected by the party. We’ve seen state governments assert the right of the state legislature to usurp the popular vote by citing Rehnquist’s decision in Bush v Gore. And while you’d like to think this remains a decision in popular hands, Idk how current composition of the SCOTUS will respond if presented with an opportunity to overturn another general election victory by the Democrats.
In theory, its the Big Scary Cheeto (or, assuming another Demolition Ranch subscriber gets within 400 feet of the former Prez, JD “Couchfucker” Vance).
But if all you care about is Not-Trump, why are you in a thread talking about Harris’s policy? Why take offense at anyone asking? You know who you’re voting for, regardless of what she says, so why are you in here pretending that you care?
I am not pretending that I care that people don’t vote for Harris.
I fucking care because I don’t want a fucking genocidal dictator. Why don’t you care about that?
Then you think you’d care about the nine people who will ultimately decide this election. You’d think that would lead to more calls of “Pack the Court”, “Fight illegal felony disenfranchisement laws”, and “Support universal mail-in voting”, rather than “Fuck you for asking what anyone supports”.
Instead, I’m seeing someone who is willing to waltz blindly into another Bush v Gore SCOTUS sponsored upset while screaming “Fascist!” at the Naderites.
The difference between caring about this election and caring about democracy is in wanting your team to win this round and wanting general participation in democratic institutions after November.
It’s not “my team.”
Again, I want to stop the genocidal dictator. Apparently you do not. Why?
https://democrats.org/where-we-stand/party-platform/
That’s in the platform, but it appears it isn’t part of Harris’s platform because she’s afraid it might upset people in the private industry.
And possibly because it’ll upset the victims of the private industry. MFA is the only solution to the American healthcare crisis. They’ve already sold off parts of Medicare. We need to kill the private health insurance industry or it will keep trying to get us back here
I think its more like when you see somebody step on a rake and it hits them in the face. The natural response is to be like “oh no” . Fortunately these are second hand sources and Walz is hopefully on hand to check some of the more lawyer tendencies when dealing with the public.
Who said not to vote for her?
I didn’t read that anywhere in Weevil’s comment.
What do you think their comment implies? What do you think their latest comment suggests?
That these policies are rather mid, and they would like to see better. That doesn’t imply anything about voting.
You can support your favorite sports ball team, and still complain when they suck, wanting them to do better.
Virtually every comment they have made since then is about not voting for Harris.
I’ve read them all.
They complain about policy more, explain the election system, and complain about Netenyahoo jerking us around. None of which suggests to not vote for Harris.
In fact they clearly state that Trump is worse.
I think you are deliberately refusing to see something that pretty much everyone else here can see just because he isn’t literally saying “don’t vote for Harris.”
But sure, maybe he’s saying not to vote at all. Which is basically the same thing.
As someone who is terminally on Lemmy you should do more to build a better culture of charitable interpretation of what people are saying instead of trying to fucking gestapo-up alleged Trump supporters and silence any criticism of your preferred candidate.
It’s toxic shit
No, Democrats are perfect and anyone who doesn’t love their constant failures at everything but funding genocide must be literally Trump.
Maybe you should look at their post history and see if that “charitable interpretation” is justified.
Close.
I’m deliberately refusing to infer something that isn’t implied. I’m refusing to try to mind-read someone I don’t know. I’m deliberately accepting their statements at face value, because I don’t know them.
It’s how I would hope people read what I write.
And how I believe we can have more productive interactions online.
Well I do know them. I’ve seen them post here for a long time. I’ve also seen them switch almost immediately from “don’t vote for Biden” to “don’t vote for Harris.”
You gotta realize, America isn’t a new iPhone release with chamfered edges. We’re trying to save America from Fascism. That the campaign is also doing things on top of that is just great. They’ve already probably accomplished much more in the last 4 years than you realized, not even counting the fact that they had to undo the clusterfuck that DonOld the Orange Bloat left behind where departments had no people, no records, nothing.
Example of what you should expect in the future based on the last 4 years (as summarized by ChatGPT):
Biden-Harris Administration Accomplishments (2020-2024)
Summary of Key Accomplishments
Economic Recovery and Job Creation:
Healthcare and Social Policies:
Infrastructure and Environmental Initiatives:
Social Justice and Civil Rights:
Foreign Policy and National Security:
Economic and Trade Policies:
Departmental and Agency Accomplishments
Department of Transportation (DOT)
Federal Communications Commission (FCC)
Federal Trade Commission (FTC)
Environmental Protection Agency (EPA)
Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB)
National Labor Relations Board (NLRB)
Federal Deposit Insurance Corporation (FDIC) and Office of the Comptroller of the Currency (OCC)
Department of Energy (DOE)
Department of Education
Upvote for effort alone.
But you gotta realize, I didn’t mention Biden’s accomplishments. It’s all arguing against something I wasn’t even talking about. So as great as your comment is, it’s kinda misplaced.
You’re choosing a team. Not a person.
I’m choosing a person, hoping they build (inherit) a good team.
Copypasta takes no effort at all.