Picked two bad candidates.
You’re a bad egg, Vance! Let’s pray.
Hosanna! Praise Rang Dipkin!
May they never recover.
May the moderate Democracts become the right end of the Window, so that actually progressive parties can spring up on their left wing.
Surprisingly cogent argument from a conservative publication.
"Trump’s weakness only remained hidden for much of this year because…
Only for “much of this year”? Are you kidding me?
His many, many flaws were/are invisible to his selectively blind cult members. Those people were, however, loud and obnoxious enough to force their opinion on the weak Republican Party, and the party was too ineffectual to come up with an alternative. Boo fucking hoo.
The fact that the party was basically forced to run him again just tells me that the republicans are in big trouble after Trump leaves. Their voter base is declining and they don’t have another populist to take his place.
So their options after this are either to try and get another populist and push trash candidates over the line, which won’t work. Or they can do the right thing and give up on their social positions against minorities and abortion. The outcome of the first option is they lose a lot of elections, the outcome of the second option of changing positions is to split the party. I just don’t know how they move forward when Trump loses.
Their voter base is declining
This has been true for literally decades and it hasn’t stopped them yet. When you can gerrymander, suppress voters, take advantage of the Electoral College, and pack the Supreme Court with cronies, you don’t really care about demographics.
Gerrymandering is also only so effective. If enough people move or die you’re stuck running a radical right candidate in a newly moderate district.
Well sure, but there is a critical point at which they can’t use those to compensate anymore and that point is already passed them I think. That’s why you’re seeing them try to steal elections, they know there is no legitimate way to win them now. So unless democrats do some really stupid things, they may not have the population to gain the minority of votes they need to keep power.
Quite arguably, they stole the Presidential elections in both 2000 and 2016. 2000 was aided and abetted by the Supreme Court (hence “pack the Supreme Court with cronies”), while 2016 was aided and abetted by Putin and the Russians - at least that shit is new in the Republican playbook.
His flaws aren’t invisible to his cult members, they’re why they follow him in the first place.
If He can a be racist, bigoted piece of shit that can do no wrong then they can be racist, bigoted pieces of shit that can do no wrong.
His sexism justifies their sexism. His constant grifting justifies their constant grifting.
But above all else, in my humble opinion, is that he’s an absolute fucking moron that likes to think he’s the smartest person in the room. And when you’re an absolute fucking moron that doesn’t understand how pronouns work or why masks were important or anything like that, well that’s okay because actually you know better because you’re smart, you’re the smartest guy in the room, you know better than all those experts, just like Trump.
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What’s funny about that is that trump doesn’t drink. Which is odd, because he acts like he’s pickled half the time.
I think him not drinking is the only reason we are exposed to him at all. If he was a drinker, he would be a raging alcoholic, unable to even stand up.
Him not drinking is unironically probably the only reason he’s still alive despite his lifestyle and diet.
From media reports he abstains from alcohol because his brother died of alcoholism. That hasn’t stopped him from promoting Trump vodka.
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Bad candidate, bad businessman, bad father, bad husband … it’s almost impressive how much he sucks.
When reading your list my mind went to ‘bad cellmate’ and I suddenly realized that if Trump were ever convicted, he would have a cell mate. Can you imagine the sheer horror at finding out you would be spending years locked in a cage with Trump?
If Trump ever faces real prison time (at age 78+), he’ll flee to Russia or Saudi Arabia.
Can you imagine the sheer horror at finding out you would be spending years locked in a cage with Trump?
Oh, it wouldn’t be years. I’ll take the extra time in exchange for some peace and quiet.
Trump has been convicted, 34 times, actually. Will he go to prison is the question. If he does, I doubt he’d have a cellmate. He’ll probably be in a Four Seasons version of prison.
Four Seasons Total Landscaping and Minimum Security Prison ™
I’d purposely start some shit to try to get moved to solitary confinement.
And still at 47% polls.
This country has some serious shit wrong with it
I imagine for some of those folks being a part of a group that demands nothing other than your agreement is better than belonging to a group demanding a truthful relationship to the facts and their impact.
this is the most confusing thing to me, why are so many people still voting for him?
i swear the RNC could run a fucking rock they found on the road as a candidate and it would get 40% of the votes.
Brainwashed is all I can say. I run in some circles with conservative folks, and you can point out every reason why trump is a shit show, and you’re still gonna get "well uh bengazi er that pizza place uh Hunter Biden’s laptop. They hear what they want to hear, they don’t dig for the truth, and they buy any of the shit fox news shovels in their mouth.
yeah idk it’s fucking depressing that i have to exist around people like this. Meanwhile socially and economically i’m treated worse just for being on the fringes of socialization. Meanwhile i’m also not a literal fascist, but apparently that’s not good enough.
gotta love society i guess.
You’re conveniently leaving out what he’s good at: being a Russian and Saudi asset.
It really is. Is there a bigger loser in history? I mean, he fucking bankrupted a casino during the casino boom. Then got bailed out by a coal baron he appointed to secretary of commerce. Coincidence I’m sure…
Your on to something, he does have the best worse record:
Icing on the cake is that he might “lose third term” for first time ever (not 100% if that hasn’t been done before though)
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“Trump isn’t losing because Kamala Harris is being hyped by the press and fluffed up to kingdom come. He isn’t losing because the press is being unfair to him. He’s losing because he’s a weak, unpopular, undisciplined candidate running at the head of a weak, minority electoral coalition. That’s the truth, whether anyone wants to hear it or not,” Wright concluded.
Damn. The National Review is not pulling its punches on Trump.
Yes they are. They forgot to call him a rapist, felon, traitor, and wanna-be dictator.
All of that can be unfortunately explained away by MAGA. This hits them in the only place they care about, the ballot box.
34 felonies, dementia, and weird.
Those all sound like criteria to be a Republican
i thought that came with the ticket, i didn’t realize you had to call that in with the ticket.
Yeah, the writing is on the wall enough for them to abandon the fascist ship.
Yeah, but they’re also busy trashing Kamala too.
“Is Harris an ideal candidate? Is she an incredibly talented orator? Is she deft on her feet and nimble in debate? Is she a famous wonk? Does she have a long track record of competence at the state and federal level? Has she been scrutinized by a tough no-nonsense press and come out stronger on the other side?” wrote Wright. “No, of course not — but she’s an alternative to Trump/Biden, and that’s probably going to be enough.”
True, but that goes without saying. They will always put the Democrat candidate down, no matter how good or bad they are. As would the devoted liberal media always put down the GOP candidate.
Bad candidates, bad policies, bad justifications, bad faith… The list goes on
He’s not even legally allowed to hold office.
He is. You can be a convicted felon and still hold office.
You can’t lead an insurrection after taking an oath of office and still hold office.
Seems there is a gap there
One of those loopholes born of the founding fathers just never expecting us to be that stupid. A constitutional “this is why we have dumb warnings on the box” moment if you will.
No, that was a deliberate choice in order to prevent people in power from being able to silence their political opponents by locking them up on trumped-up charges. (See e.g. Alexei Navalny)
The real reason Trump shouldn’t be eligible to hold office is because of his coup attempt and the Insurrection Clause, not his 34 felony convictions.
Eugene Debs is also a good example from within the US.
He is able to be elected president again, as (for better or worse) being a convicted felon is not one of the disqualifying criteria for that office.
Several US states invoked the 14th Amendment as grounds to disqualify him, but the Republican-controlled Supreme Court ruled earlier this year that only the US Congress has the authority to make that determination. Which, divided as Congress is right now, could never happen.
It’s an incorrect ruling. States have always been the judges of legal qualification for office.
Congress has it’s own method to disqualify someone: impeachment.
I agree, but unfortunately the Supreme Court’s word is (literally) law. There is no avenue to contest that short of passing another amendment with more teeth than the 14th, or waiting for a less-biased court to re-evaluate the ruling.
“Republican Party is a minority coalition that picked a very unpopular 78-year-old retread as its candidate”
Is it possible to read this and not read as “retard”? I cant for the life of me.
Hey, some people can’t afford 4 brand new tires all at once. They can’t help it if they don’t have the money.
Even Fox News is hanging up on him when gets ranting during his regular Fox and Friends morning call.
“The GOP electoral coalition is the smaller, weaker coalition. It’s lost the popular vote seven out of nine times in my lifetime (I’m 36). It has lost the Electoral College three out of the last four cycles. Conservatives might not be very eager to hear this, but ‘We the People’ are mostly Democrats,” Wright continued.
So much for calling themselves the Silent Majority.
Of course they can still win, the way they are looking at now is to cheat!
I’ll just leave this here
Platform wise some of them are republican as we know them now even if their circles are blue. I think Clinton and Carter are what we’d consider current democrats
Carter was pre-Reagan. This was before the neoliberals took over the Democratic Party.
Clinton mostly accepted Republican framing of the economy, that taxes on the rich need to be low for… Reasons.
The main argument of the neoliberals is that while conservatives are “right” about a bunch of their policies and shit, they’re just bad at running everything.
Carter was before that shit. Back when we said that conservative policy was heartless and evil.
Some in the Democratic Party are coming back to this simple idea.
The “Lost popular vote” angle is only going to get worse over time. As the Senate/EC gets more and more comically lopsided in popular representation and climate change eats into the bigger Gulf Coast states, you’re going to see people winning the White House with 10-15M popular vote deficits in the next few decades.
California alone constitutes more than 12% of the total population but less than 10% of the EC.
how does Carter suck
The chart is labeled
“Presidential Circles of Suck”
Presidents that sucked. So how did Carter suck? Losing his second term means he sucks? No.
So again, how does Carter suck?
Is this bait? Like, are you trolling? Because I didn’t make the chart. You clearly understand the chart. You just want to start a fight over the title of the chart? It’s a silly name for a funny chart. Calm down bruv.
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Gotcha
Removed, civility.
What a question to ask when you’re the one who didn’t read the clearly labeled graphic.
Are you people actually insane?
Please indicate where it explains Carter was a bad president
It’s saying he was voted out of office.
I don’t think this is a good thing. While the current form of conservatism was kind of started by Trump via whatever horrible things he was saying, it’s a pandora’s box that was opened and will probably never be closed again as long as there’s an audience to the talking points. If Trump were to become effectively disowned by conservatives, they’re likely going to replace him with someone even worse (someone like Mike Johnson or any other christian fundamentalist) which is the true horror.
Also remember - all this talk from conservatives about Trump being a “bad candidate” is not because his policies or project 2025 are bad, it’s only because he’s no longer that popular.
But I feel like Trump has both narcissism and charisma which make people believe what he says.
If Johnson had to take over, he’d spit lies and christofascist stuff but I doubt people would see him as “our new Jesus” as MAGA people see Trump. Idk if I explained myself clearly
Let them replace Trump with somebody even worse. They will get beat at the ballot box too.
Hahaha, yeah let them try.
The thing is, trump was a unique breed of asshole, he has no shame, he said the quiet part out loud because there was no doubt in his mind that he is doing something wrong.
GOP has never had an alternative to that, it’s actually why he became president. He brought a useful energy that no one else could produce.
It’s just how cults of personality work, they die with the figurehead until someone else could match or surpass that energy.
It’s not quite that simple, though. Trump took control of the party, and the people who were in control before him or who wish they were in control now, those people might not be happy with their loss of personal power.
They also know, as we know, that being overtly racist and sexist is probably not going to win the hearts of the majority of Americans. In the past and today, many conservative candidates have pushed racist and sexist policies but they’ve been less conspicuous about doing so, and that let them maintain some semblance of decency to some percent of the voting population. With Trump or anyone of his style at the helm, it’s much harder for people to deny the horror.
Finally, it’s certainly true that many conservative politicians don’t agree with some aspects of Project 2025. The problem they have had in the Trump cult era is that they didn’t dare say anything that would go against their fearless leader.
Having written all of that, Republicans who are only finally speaking out now are showing us that they prioritized personal political survival over everything else, and I don’t have much respect for that.
