• 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    That’s because of the war though. And dual use. Border controls. Like, if Hamas could get whatever it wanted into Gaza, the ratio would be 1 to 45. I agree the ratio is appalling as is, especially all the kids. Hamas should stop hiding under everyone’s cities, actual leaders should step forward and reject martyrdom culture. Maybe Gaza would have more of a future.

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      2 months ago

      I am yet to see any army as immoral and as bloodthirsty as the IDF. Hamss fucking suck but even they wouldn’t literally kill this many civilians whether they can or can’t. Hezbollah could flip all tables on Israel and yet they don’t tend to kill a child every fucking minute. In the meantime Israel claims to have the best war tech but always kills 10 extra people because for them the best way to kill a Hamas fighters is not when he is in a tunnel, instead it’s when he is kissing his daughter goodnight. And in most of those cases, no Hamas fighters were killed.

      What significant life event other than literally everything happening today would it take you to realize this?

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      2 months ago

      So, you’re saying that the IDF is a terrorist organization similar to Hamas?

      • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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        2 months ago

        If Hamas surrenders the war ends. It has nothing to do with anyone’s genes. It has to do with Hamas packing kids into tiny rooms above tunnel shafts and then refusing to let them evacuate, or worse, convincing them that it’s good to be a Martyr.™

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          2 months ago

          Oh don’t be so childish. Hamas is a vaguely defined terrorist organisation.

          There is no scenario in which Israel goes “all right Hamas decided to surrender, we got these known leaders here, so we’re sure there’s no more Hamas anywhere and we will now leave the Palestinians alone, as this was definitely never a flimsy excuse for a genocide to make lebensraum for Israeli settlers”.

          Whatever Hamas does, Israel will keep up the killing and fighting and landgrabbing. You’d have to be extremely naive to think otherwise.

          • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            Hamas sold out the foreseeable future of Gaza. As soon as they did October 6, they sent an engraved invitation to Israel inviting over for a seige war followed years of martial law.

            Gaza needs to be rebuilt after this. Who is going to do it? Gaza can’t do it. They made sure that every penny of public wealth has gone towards making sure children are malnourished but rocket launchers are deployed and loaded up. Gaza literally doesn’t ave the excavators and dump trucks that they need just to clear the streets, let alone build new public works, because they spent every penny anyone had indiscriminately shooting rockets at Israeli neighborhoods and digging tunnels which they use to hold every Gazan hostage.

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              2 months ago

              Did you reply to the right comment?

              I don’t see how any of that has anything to do with my comment.

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          2 months ago

          DO YOU HAVE ANY EVIDENCE AT ALL TO BACK UP THE CLAIM OF HAMAS “PACKING” KIDS INTO SMALL ROOMS ABOVE TUNNELS?

          because it’s yet another example of an extremely dumb claim resting on an extremely unlikely piece of informatio

          But if course you will ignore this request because you can easily just ignore anything from me 😁😊😊

          • 【J】【u】【s】【t】【Z】@lemmy.world
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            2 months ago

            West Bank has Hamas, Hezbollah, ISIS, and IJ as well. They launch terror attacks from the West Bank. Take your pick of pan Islamists far right radicals who literally want to genocide every non Muslim in the middle east and “restore Islam to its rightful place in the world.”

            They get attacked because they choose international terrorism instead of literally anything else.

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              Sure it does. But the biggest terrorists are those disgusting genocidal Zionists, stealing homes and lives like a bunch of fuckin savages. Fuck them and fuck you, you genocide supporter.

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                Just this morning Israel is apparently surrounding a hospital with all the patients inside… in Jenin. Totally “acceptable” of the “oNlY dEmOcRaCy iN tHe MidDle EasT”.

                It’s like, “oh yeah we love killing Palestinians but those are the orders we get from our democratically elect government 😉 if you forget all the Palestinians with absolutely no rights”

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          The war ends and it goes back to apartheid, of religion and homeland, no genes required. And what evidence is there of what you’re claiming?

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          You’re so right and smart. On that note it’s weird that nobody wants the US to bomb their own schools when an active shooter is holding up there.

          Level the whole school. That will prevent future shooters.

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            2 months ago

            They kinda already do that. Remember when police destroyed a house that a shoplifter ran to, and made the innocent family pay for it?

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      2 months ago

      actual leaders should step forward and reject martyrdom culture

      Well Israel is killing them as well . Israel will not tolerate any leader who advocates for a free Palestine. Look at the West Bank and how far fatah’s collaboration has gotten them, slowly being pushed out by terrorist settlers. This is why Palestine has no future, Israel forbids it. If you peacefully protest you get shot in the leg , if you use violence then that violence is brought back on you 50 fold. Anyone who thinks Hamas just needs to play nice doesn’t grasp the full historic context.

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      Gaza has been a shithole long before Hamas existed because Israel is doing the same shit since over half a century. The only future they can look forward to is staying an open-air prison. There will be no two-state solution, Israel does not want that.