• IndustryStandard@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    The mainstream talking point of Democrats turned to “we need to play it safe and win all the Republican votes”.

    They believe only centrist moderate voters can be scared away. And claim progressives are always guaranteed to vote Democrat. Everything hangs on that assumption.

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        2 months ago

        So because the other guy’s a fascist, you’ll take the opportunity to throw trans people under the bus like you and all centrists have always wanted to do?

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          2 months ago

          I don’t think not talking about it is the same as throwing them under the bus. The fact of the matter is the Democratic party has already vowed to protect trans rights. Also, Fox News, and other media, has portrayed the trans issue in a misleading light and it’s the next big boogeyman. Them throwing away votes to assure people who already know who’s on their side that they’re on their side is stupid politics. Sure, it’d be great if we lived in a world where this calculation wasn’t needed, but we don’t.

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            2 months ago

            I don’t think not talking about it is the same as throwing them under the bus. The fact of the matter is the Democratic party has already vowed to protect trans rights.

            Like they did with undocumented immigrants.

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        2 months ago

        Harris is sitting here telling you that she will not stop funding/supplying the genocide of Palestinians, that she will take a stricter border policy and continue building the wall, that under her the US military will be the most lethal fighting force. Not to mention her horrific track record up to this point. A vote for Harris is just as much a vote for fascism as a vote for Trump is. Not that voting out fascism in the USA was ever a realistic option to begin with.

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      2 months ago

      It’s a pretty good assumption. You’d have to be a complete shit popsicle to vote for someone worse on all the issues you care about, because the party that gives any fucks whatsoever isn’t doing enough.

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          2 months ago

          Tbf, in 2016 the DNC and Clinton were so arrogant they literally said, “we don’t need your votes.” Like every political campaign all they needed to do was make some empty promises to try to get them on board.

          In my experience, the difference between die hard Sanders supporters and other leftists or liberals is that they tend to believe that the on going class war is the single biggest issue we face in the US today. Everything else is a distraction to keep that otherwise overwhelming block of the population segmented into competing blocks of people. The Dems just foster an attitude of “competing but inter-supportive” and the GOP has one of “competing, and you should enslave your enemies.” The latter of course only really appealing to white conservatives and useful idiots.

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            2 months ago

            Tbf, in 2016 the DNC and Clinton were so arrogant they literally said, “we don’t need your votes.”

            Lol you know it’s going to be a great post when it starts with such a blatant lie.

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      It’s just a numbers game. There are far more waffling centrists and drooling fence-sitters in this country that there are people who are trans, and the latter are already likely to vote D regardless. It will always be this way: a campaign is always going to spend more resources on the larger and less sure voting bloc.