My thoughts: this was not an accident. This was testing the waters.

I wonder what the person who absolutely insisted to me yesterday that this wasn’t about black people in general would have to say about this…

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    Gonna invoke the hivemind rage and say that, upon listening w headphones, it does kinda sound like he’s saying “migr -” with a short “i” sound.

    Now queue the downvotes, calling me racist, dumb, etc.

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        I think you’re hearing what you want to hear and getting a hit of the righteous outrage. Misspeaking is a thing, dude. You say “plausible” sarcastically, as if it weren’t actually 100% plausible lol

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          Sounds like everyone here is “hearing what they want to hear” except you. What does that suggest to you?

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              You can also claim anything you want if you simply dismiss everything you don’t agree with as biased and worthless, which you appear to be doing here.

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                    Sorry, thought you were the squid man. Regardless, on its face (without examining the video), his explanation makes more sense than a practiced media person blurting out the n-word on camera. Examining the audio, i’d say that I’m more confident that he’s making an “m” sound than an “n”. Examining the video, it appears his lips close when making the m/n sound, indicating an “m” over an “n”.

                    That seems to be pretty objective. Most of the comments in this thread are getting high off of righteous indignation instead of thinking that, possibly, the conservative asshole didn’t blurt out the n-word on camera.

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      No. I assumed it was actually something like thag. Then listened to it a bunch of times. I don’t find that plausible at all.

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        Lol ok buddy. Everyone closes their lips when they pronounce an “m”, right? CLEAR AS DAY. keep fighting the good fight, hive mind

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            Did you …watch the video? His lips move together at the consonant in question. Lol but sure, you’re not just hearing what you want to hear.

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                Honestly I think it’s incredibly pathetic that you’re so dug in on this stranger saying a naughty word that you won’t even look at it objectively. In response to my detailed, objective breakdown, your only rebuttal was “gaslighter”. K. The embedded video player in the link above has a playback speed option, feel free to use it to slow the video down and see the truth of his mouth shape. Compare it to the “n” shape he uses when he says “in” several times. Or keep sticking your head in the sand and yelling “NUH UH GASLIGHTER”, idc. I think we’re clearly done here.

                Edit:.honestly the slowed playback pretty much proves it’s an “m” in both sound and mouth shape.

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                  I have looked at it. Multiple times. His mouth does do the m thing. After he says the N word. That’s how you can tell it’s different.

                  Your detailed breakdown is just a bunch of bullshit designed to make people doubt themselves. Which is gaslighting. It’s the exact definition of gaslighting.

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                    Lol jesus christ, did you just learn the term “gaslighting” or something? Someone disagreeing with you isn’t gaslighting.

                    I’ve literally voted in every election since I turned 18 in 2004 and I’ve only voted dem, even though my state has gone red every single time. I think the Haitian story is a clear-cut indication of the racist rot in middle America. I’m not the scarecrow you’ve constructed in your head.

                    Safe to assume that you have partisan blinders on and will ignore all the circumstantial and tangible evidence in favor of your reality where 50% of voters are outright racists who wouldn’t bat an eye at openly saying the n-word.

                    Keep buying into the ragebait, anyone who disagrees with you is a racist gaslighter.

                    I spent way too much energy on you, have a good life.

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            Wow you really got me there. Lol the comment is at a positive ratio. The people downvoting me are the willfully ignorant, such as yourself, who would ignore any and all evidence contrary to your notion that a practiced media presence said the n-word live in front of cameras, lol, super smart deduction there buddy. Also ignore the sentence structure and how much more sense “migrant” makes following the word “Haitian”, ignore that he was actually defending the Haitian migrants in his comments, ignore how the consonant sounds slightly more like an “m” than an “n”, and ignore that his lips move together when making the “m” sound, which wouldn’t happen with an “n”. Did I miss anything?

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                  Cognitive dissonance is the feeling when your actions don’t line up with what you’re thinking. Is that how you meant to use that? or were you just looking for impressive words to make me doubt myself or feel confusion?

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                    The cognitive dissonance is you believing that he said the n word while also being aware that the sound that came out is “m” and his mouth forms the “m” shape and not the “n” shape

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      Sometimes I hear an m, sometimes an n. Not gonna shit on you. BUT he doesn’t say migr- as if he’s going to say migrants with the short I like he claims he did, he says -IGGER. You have to simultaneously fuck up two different ways to say it that way. It would be mig-rants, not migger-ants.

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        Sure. I’d still say that he just fumbled his words, as people do everyday. Importantly, it’s incredibly stupid to hyper focus on someone possibly saying a naughty word when the whole Haitian migrants story is full of real, undeniable, tangible racism. Missing the forest for the trees.

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      Your headphones suck because he definitely lead with the “n” and not the “m”. I know the difference in sound between n and m and it was an n. In fact around the 0:35 mark he said, “complaining about Haitian nigge-mngr-migrants”. I don’t know how to spell him correcting himself.

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        Nah man, you’re hearing what you want to hear. Just look at his lips - they come together as they would with an “m” sound. The exact same way they come together shortly thereafter to say “migrants” properly.

        Compare his mouth movement to when he says “in”, his lips do not move together.

        Or keep hearing what you want to hear, I don’t care. Nothing I say will change your mind.

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      Yeah, I’m not 100% convinced either. It doesn’t sound like he used the n-word, nor that he caught himself halfway through saying it. People screw up speaking all the time, and on rare occasions it can sound like something offensive.