We’ve made the hard decision to end our experiment with Mozilla.social and will shut down the Mastodon instance on December 17, 2024. Thank you for being part of the Mozilla.social community and providing feedback during our closed beta. You can continue to use Mozilla.social until December 17. Before that date, you can download your data here (https://mozilla.social/settings/export), and migrate your account to another instance following these instructions (https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/mozilla-social-faq).
Lemmy support would be much more fitting for Mozilla. They could add plugin or lemmy integration to their browser that could show discussions from subscribed communities matching the current url.
Effectively acting as a “comment section” but for any page. One would only need lemmy account to comment on youtube videos, news articles, blogs etc.
Lemmy has less than half a million total users, and YTD MAU peaked at 52k.
Even putting aside technical details, I fail to see how “Lemmy integration in the browser” could be a good product strategy. A plugin/extension can also be developed by independent developers, which seems much more fitting for the size of the target demographic. Maybe I’m missing something.
Well since they were/are hosting Mastodon instance they do seem to have some interest in the fediverse. They do also have official plugins.
Personally I feel something like this could be the next step for social link aggregation and discussion platforms. Being able to share and discuss on about videos and articles without having to register to dozens or more pages while also having some control over the people you interract with through instances, subscribed communities etc.
Source media would also be unable to control what can or cannot be discussed. Many youtube videos and news articles for example may block all comments. It would be up to community on how to moderate discussion.
Gab tried to pull the same thing with their Dissenter plugin. It was such a bad idea that Mozilla and Google banded together to remove the extensions from their stores for ToS violations.
Now imagine what a nightmare it would be to moderate the ability to comment on anything online with actual standards and decency.
Unless you make a p2p system and search comments by page hash in some way (maybe just over I2P?) making it hard for other nodes to understand from which node it comes and which node downloads those comments.
OK, I agree. Not very good. But in theory it can be better.
Lemmy support would be much more fitting for Mozilla. They could add plugin or lemmy integration to their browser that could show discussions from subscribed communities matching the current url.
Effectively acting as a “comment section” but for any page. One would only need lemmy account to comment on youtube videos, news articles, blogs etc.
I didn’t want to rain on your parade, but:
Even putting aside technical details, I fail to see how “Lemmy integration in the browser” could be a good product strategy. A plugin/extension can also be developed by independent developers, which seems much more fitting for the size of the target demographic. Maybe I’m missing something.
Well since they were/are hosting Mastodon instance they do seem to have some interest in the fediverse. They do also have official plugins.
Personally I feel something like this could be the next step for social link aggregation and discussion platforms. Being able to share and discuss on about videos and articles without having to register to dozens or more pages while also having some control over the people you interract with through instances, subscribed communities etc.
Source media would also be unable to control what can or cannot be discussed. Many youtube videos and news articles for example may block all comments. It would be up to community on how to moderate discussion.
Yeah, something like 50k users is a drop in the bucket. It’s a nice size for a community, but not big enough to warrant a browser feature.
that seems like the way to go for this
Gab tried to pull the same thing with their Dissenter plugin. It was such a bad idea that Mozilla and Google banded together to remove the extensions from their stores for ToS violations.
Now imagine what a nightmare it would be to moderate the ability to comment on anything online with actual standards and decency.
Why was it a bad idea? Seems like a wonderful idea. Minus Gab.
Some kind of web of trust and inheriting ignored users based on it and weights - and it will work.
Sounds to me like an extension that by design tracks every Web page you visit.
Not necessarily and only those you comment.
That’s the point, to comment any webpage. It’s clear you visited it if you comment it.
Presumably it loads comments when you visit a page. That would send a request with the URL to whatever service they’re running.
Unless you make a p2p system and search comments by page hash in some way (maybe just over I2P?) making it hard for other nodes to understand from which node it comes and which node downloads those comments.
OK, I agree. Not very good. But in theory it can be better.
Wow that might actually be amazing. A comment section for every page?
Think of all the tracking data!
🥺
Im on your side, just need a way to protect the users.
Putting a frame under every url you browse to needs to be done right™️
I swear Lemmy comments for YouTube had a feature that let you open it for any page, but it seems the GitHub and Firefox page been deleted.
Edit: Looks like I’ve still got a fork: https://github.com/Steve-Tech/Reddit-Comments-for-YouTube (it says Reddit, but works for Lemmy too)