Ugly people make music all the time.
You really gonna tell me Ed Sheeran is good looking? Post Malone?
He looked better pre-Malone
Adele isn’t that good looking as well, but she is well loved as a singer.
You’ve got some warped standards for beauty.
But she used to be kinda fat tho…
/s
Where’s his chin?
Is that Ed!? Holy shite he’s really changed his look!
Tap for spoiler
/s
I’ve never heard his music, but I think Post Malone is beautiful
But the contention is about music being better, and that’s some bad music.
Did we read the same post?
Music was better when ugly people were allowed to make it
I guess your comment makes sense if you find those two attractive.
Like I get the boomer joke of music these days sucks but my comment was leaning into joke.
Yeah, and Jack White aint pretty either.
Imo, this post is better directed at hollywood
Your comment makes sense in the frame of “ugly people are allowed to make music,” my comment refers to the “music was better” part of the post.
The ugly people you mentioned don’t support your comment’s argument against the original assertion because their music is terrible, not “better.”
Some music sucked in the boomer’s days, made by ugly and pretty people alike.
He’s simply disputing the assertion that ugly people aren’t allowed to make music.
Yeah, that’s what the comment you replied to starts with.
Yeah so what’s your problem with what he said then?
Why did you reply to my comment to restate the first part of what I said?
Willie Nelson checking in
Willie is a beautiful angel.
Ed Sheeran seems to be doing alright
Ugly might be a strong word. Definitely not conventionally attractive though.
^ Uses 80s iconography to make fun of GenX’s parents.
Isn’t it ironic?
Depends if you ask a linguist or Alanis Morissette
Glad you caught the reference. Wouldn’t it technically be irony in both cases?
A little too ironic
Moreso than a traffic jam, when you’re already late for work?
Almost as much as 10,000 spoons when all you need is a knife.
I don’t think music has gotten any worse. However, it is much easier and cheaper to produce music today: you don’t have to be able to play an instrument and professional production is possible with comparatively inexpensive software on any standard computer. This and also the changes in distribution (no more need for sound carriers, …) have probably led to a lot more music being produced today than in the past. Of course, this does not mean that music has become better as a result, but it also does not mean that it has become worse. You just have to find the gems among the admittedly gigantic amount of junk.
I somewhat disagree.
Music seems like it’s followed a similar trajectory of most things where it’s become more centralized and mass marketed. Music has to appeal to the masses for studios to pick it up. So there is an incentive to find music that appeals to the most people and turns off the fewest.
Similarly, you have a handful of studios telling you what is “good” and pushing it. Even if it isn’t great, it’s good enough that people listen and then they can create the hype behind it where it might not organically exist.
Some music bubbles up organically from independent artists but quite a bit is mass marketed and produced by big studios. And they have the money so they can choke out smaller artists.
I think there’s a categorical difference between pop and indie music and you’re right about the increased centralization of pop music, however the increased ease of music production and distribution has also lead to a greater proliferation of indie music at the same time
Well, in that regard not too much changed, I think. Record labels always mostly pushed music and artists with mass appeal. They still do but have lost a lot of their power to companies like Spotify, Apple and Google (YouTube). But these players do pretty much the same with their algorithms. So I don’t think that popular music has changed too much. There are still influential companies that can pretty much dictate what people listen to. I still don’t think it has become much worse, since back in the day you weren’t even able to produce an album without a record deal because studio time, distribution and all that was so expensive. Today you can produce everything yourself in your bedroom. Sure, it’s unlikely that you will be very successful marketing your record - but at least it’s somewhat possible.
“just”
Yeah no, that’s just a cranky old guy thought. Just today I was watching fairly average looking people promoting music on late shows. You’re probably getting a very thin slice of pop music and ignoring everything else (and hell, even pop breaks that rule sometimes).
Plus, physical beauty and music are both subjective. I try to not get all “old man yells at cloud” about how music “used to be better”.
ignoring or not having a chance to find it?
Tbf, I think radio absolutely used to be better before iheart and their ilk bought fucking everything and turned every goddamn station into a hypersanitized prepackaged mix of the same 10 bloody songs over and over. Therefore, by extension, I could 100% see how someone basing their opinion on what actually gets radio play could easily arrive at the conclusion that music is worse now.
I’m very lucky to have an independent radio station in my area. It’s run by a nearby college, but they let anyone take training to become a host.
They don’t always play music I like (hell, they don’t always even play music) but I’ll deal with 30 minutes of buddhist chanting because the variety can’t be beaten. Also, they have no ad breaks.
Oh man, my independent station is wild sometimes. It swaps between a lot of genres, from punk to classical. They played an Earthbound video game cover once, even. My npr station is relatively fine too.
Corpos 100% ruin radio, though, and that’s been true for a long time. Stations often get incentives to pay the same songs and that’s only gotten worse with time. True across all popular genres, too.
The issue is marketing, go to Bandcamp and have a route around
Which route should I take?
I specified around so the most circular.
They aren’t even ugly, they’re just beautiful in a different way than media accepts.
I want the milkman to deliver my milk… in the myorning.
Come to Daddy
Blah blah blah blah old man yells at sky
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Beauty is, of course, in the eye of the beholder, but this is Richard Goodall. He’s a school janitor in my town of Terre Haute, Indiana and he just won America’s Got Talent. He will probably have at least a somewhat successful musical career after this. He really blew people away.
Video killed the radio star
Podcasts are literally a thing
Nah, ugly ppl still make the music, behind the scenes :p
Just about to comment this. Singers these days are usually the “face.”
